That was pretty lame

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

He certainly might have. If that is the driving motivation, and he was scheduled to head to Israel or Palestine, maybe it would have been the case.

It's a tragedy, period.

He wasn't going to the " front line" Brian. Stop making excuses.

Being PC and fair to everyone , not offending anyone and giving everyone ( except Bush) the benefit of the doubt is all fine and dandy on here, but in real life it gets people killed.

Maybe your attitude will change when you hear that it was Bush's administration that appears to have dropped the ball on this guy.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

He wasn't going to the " front line" Brian. Stop making excuses. Being PC and fair to everyone , not offending anyone and giving everyone ( except Bush) the benefit of the doubt is all fine and dandy on here, but in real life it gets people killed.

Maybe your attitude will change when you hear that it was Bush's administration that appears to have dropped the ball on this guy.

Right... we don't live in real life. Everyone is evil and no one is to be trusted....

I don't care who dropped the ball. Someone did. Doesn't change my opinion that it was a tragedy.

Was it premeditated, calculated etc?
ABSOLUTELY!

That does not mean terrorism, at least not in my book.

Should it mean that the army needs to un-PC, no one of Muslim faith can be in the army?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Right... we don't live in real life. Everyone is evil and no one is to be trusted....

I don't care who dropped the ball. Someone did. Doesn't change my opinion that it was a tragedy.

Was it premeditated, calculated etc?
ABSOLUTELY!

That does not mean terrorism, at least not in my book.

Should it mean that the army needs to un-PC, no one of Muslim faith can be in the army?

You know what I mean. There is a lot of gray area that can be looked at.
No one dies if you or I are wrong. The people you trust to keep your loved ones alive do not have that luxury. They have to question everything. They also have to profile, like it or not.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

They also have to profile, like it or not.

Unfortunately for you, this vague Document in Washington that the last Administration tried to burn and throw out the window doesn't allow for it. That's also the same Document the honorable men and women in uniform are risking their lives to protect.

I'm willing to bet you wouldn't make a statement like that if you were a black man, instead of white. As I mentioned to Asswipe in the other thread, a lot of Muslims have given their lives to protect this country.

[scottw]

can't you picture JD sitting there on his couch with his hands over his ears? chanting.... LA-LA-LA-LA...I can't hear you...IT WAS NOT TERRORISM!!....LA-LA-LA-LA.....

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

can't you picture JD sitting there on his couch with his hands over his ears? chanting.... LA-LA-LA-LA...I can't hear you...IT WAS NOT TERRORISM!!....LA-LA-LA-LA.....

Any expert on al Qaeda will tell you their strategy is to provoke the United States, who they believe will lash out like a cowboy, into rampantly attacking the Muslim world and validate their assertion that the US is out to destroy Islam. Muslims, by their very fabric are drawn towards (even commanded to) protect the faith.

They also hope they can turn Americans against themselves, so that we compromise the foundational values that have made us so great and a beacon of inspiration for most of the world. If there's no leadership to defend free people under the rule of man's law then perhaps they have their opening and can challenge with a fundamentalist vision.

The last time I checked we assumed innocence until being proven guilty. It's supposed to be part of the "enlightenment" that separates US vs THEM.

You sir, are playing right into their hand.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Any expert on al Qaeda will tell you their strategy is to provoke the United States, who they believe will lash out like a cowboy, into rampantly attacking the Muslim world and validate their assertion that the US is out to destroy Islam. Muslims, by their very fabric are drawn towards (even commanded to) protect the faith.

They also hope they can turn Americans against themselves, so that we compromise the foundational values that have made us so great and a beacon of inspiration for most of the world. If there's no leadership to defend free people under the rule of man's law then perhaps they have their opening and can challenge with a fundamentalist vision.

-spence

That my friend is awesome!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Any expert on al Qaeda will tell you their strategy is to provoke the United States, who they believe will lash out like a cowboy, into rampantly attacking the Muslim world and validate their assertion that the US is out to destroy Islam. Muslims, by their very fabric are drawn towards (even commanded to) protect the faith.

They also hope they can turn Americans against themselves, so that we compromise the foundational values that have made us so great and a beacon of inspiration for most of the world. If there's no leadership to defend free people under the rule of man's law then perhaps they have their opening and can challenge with a fundamentalist vision. this is the Progressive agenda, the terrorists and the Progressives have a lot in common...

The last time I checked we assumed innocence until being proven guilty. It's supposed to be part of the "enlightenment" that separates US vs THEM.

You sir, are playing right into their hand.

-spence

sounds like you are admitting that this was Al Qaeda sponsored terrorism...except the part about Hasan possibly being innocent...that's f'ed up...

what the hell does "lash out like a cowboy " mean ?

I'm playing right into Al Qaeda's hand? Do you ever step back and think about how stupid something like that is when you say it ?......I'm playing right into Al Qaeda's hand....you need professional help

seems to me the dumbass that can't mutter the word terrorism without wetting his panties is actually who would be playing into Al Qaeda's hands