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Old 11-11-2009, 06:54 PM   #1
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I'll support the commercial fishermen who catch by rod and reel, but I can't condone the indiscriminent method of netting, as shown here in the slideshow, as well as in the stories and videos from the Carolinas last year. No way to cull out the shorter fish in order to meet a minimum length, as required by comm. rod and reel regs here. Those pics piss me off. Until they are forced to change their methods, they'll get no sympathy from me.

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Old 11-11-2009, 07:29 PM   #2
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As I understand it, Striped Bass are a migratory resource that is controlled by the Federal government through the ASMFC. Each state is granted a quota. This guy may be able to dig clams without a license, but if he wants to catch bass he has to deal with the Feds or whatever legal body they delegate to control his state's quota.

The same goes for recreational fishermen. Like it or not, we have no "right" to catch and keep striped bass. As a migratory species their utilization is by law controlled by the Federal government. If we don't like it it is Federal not State law that has to change. That isn't likely (you want NC deciding how many fish they can keep?).

Seeing schools of bass killed like that is upsetting, but the fish in that picture are only a fraction of what got killed in the canal this past memorial day.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:00 PM   #3
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As I understand it, Striped Bass are a migratory resource that is controlled by the Federal government through the ASMFC. Each state is granted a quota. This guy may be able to dig clams without a license, but if he wants to catch bass he has to deal with the Feds or whatever legal body they delegate to control his state's quota.

The same goes for recreational fishermen. Like it or not, we have no "right" to catch and keep striped bass. As a migratory species their utilization is by law controlled by the Federal government. If we don't like it it is Federal not State law that has to change. That isn't likely (you want NC deciding how many fish they can keep?).

Seeing schools of bass killed like that is upsetting, but the fish in that picture are only a fraction of what got killed in the canal this past memorial day.
Given the basis of the article, and the fact that the subject of the article has been arrested five times, I doubt the group in question even bothers to file their legitimate catch numbers. As for the last comment; at least they were caught by rod and reel, by a far larger number of anglers, and the sub legal fish were hopefully returned to the sea...

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Old 11-11-2009, 10:04 PM   #4
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I have seen these guys in action ... while I was fishing Montauk via boat, about a dozen or so "recreational/guide" boats working a school of feeding stripers working thier along the coast up toward Turtle Cove and the point itself ... and all doing well without interfering which each other's action ... and not interfering with the guys on the shore ... along comes a net boat, drops in his net and within minutes, the whole action is gone, whiped out the entire school ... it was frustrating as hell.

I called the coast guard and they said they couldn't do a thing ... it happened again later in the morning, same thing ... I was surprised none of the boats said anything ... more schools came through during the day, but it was crazy how quickly the action was killed for many more anglers ... I have no sympathy for these guys either ...

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Old 11-16-2009, 01:12 PM   #5
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That Slide Show Makes me SICK!!!
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:29 PM   #6
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That is sad but the discarded by-catch of big bass caught and killed and dumped offshore makes me even madder.

Frankly I am not a fan of ANY indiscriminate method of fishing. Yeah comm R&R is OK BUT they need to subtract from the quota the bass that are killed from all other commercial methods of fishing. Once you mention that the R&R'ers say "that is not fair to us because the draggers will take the entire quota!" Well...you comm guys need to work that out among yourself!!! The status quo is not any good. They need to develop new discriminate methods for fishing.

Bring back the fish traps! But no, They want it easy...fully mechanized fishing.
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