transparancy

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You said the only change you see is that we're "going down the hopper." Well, we've been going down the hopper for well over a decade now

JD, as I see it, it started in the 60's.

The Newark, Detroit and Watts riots restarted the give away programs just to keep people quiet,
instead of looking for real solutions to the problems.

Women entering the work force and depending on 2 incomes to
"have it all " for their families leading too the over use of credit and finally living above their means.

It's been a progressive thing with Big G throwing our money at problems
as if that is the be all to end all.

Debt, debt and more debt, and now it's
time to pay the piper.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by justplugit

JD, as I see it, it started in the 60's.

The Newark, Detroit and Watts riots restarted the give away programs just to keep people quiet,
instead of looking for real solutions to the problems.

Women entering the work force and depending on 2 incomes to
"have it all " for their families leading too the over use of credit and finally living above their means.

It's been a progressive thing with Big G throwing our money at problems
as if that is the be all to end all.

Debt, debt and more debt, and now it's
time to pay the piper.

My experience with the 60s is only through studying history - I'm a bit too young to discuss it by experience. But, from what I've learned, you're dead on. The 60s seemed to be a turning point for a lot of issues in this country, from freedom of expression, tolerance, the beginning of people utilizing social services, etc. - damn hippies effing up this countries.

[spence]

It's the pot.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

- damn hippies effing up this countries.

[QUOTE = Spence - It's the pot.

LOL, yup, and they are the same ones that are holding the top
positions in companies and Government now.

Going back 40 years the same ones that told their girlfriends,

"you go down to the clinic get your free birth contol pills, pick up the food stamps,
get us some pot and i'll meet you back on the campus to protest "the etablishment.".

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Women entering the work force and depending on 2 incomes to "have it all " for their families leading too the over use of credit and finally living above their means.

I agree many have the want it all problem, but seriously, women in the workforce is the problem?
1950 called it wants your sentiments back

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I agree many have the want it all problem, but seriously, women in the workforce is the problem?
1950 called it wants your sentiments back

I'm all for women in the work place

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I agree many have the want it all problem, but seriously, women in the workforce is the problem?
1950 called it wants your sentiments back

I have no problem with women working, or equal pay for equal work.

My point was the over indulgence because of the 2 income family.

Banks used to only take into consideration one income earner when granting
the amount of mortgage to loan, in addition to requiring a 20% down payment.
Now, because of the lax standards in loans, one partner loses a job in the 2 income family and the foreclosure sign goes up.

RRH, 2015 called, the IRS will want all your $$$ and your dingy.