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11-24-2009, 01:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Weymouth, MA Fore River
Posts: 1,258
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Larry - I'm not happy about this so don't get me wrong - but you fish freshwater - do you buy a license for that or do you go rogue ?
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11-24-2009, 01:15 PM
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 27
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I know this may seem like a long-shot...
But do you guys think there could be a way to make a list of shore access spots that we can petition for...or improvements on the time allowed to park/be there, etc?
When we all need to get registered, we could make this into a better outcome. For example....we get 300 registered SW fishermen to say they want a parking spot near loblolly cove (just pick a place)...can the state help us out?
Or will they say that the town has first rights to things like that?
Just an idea...and of course, I find this to be $10 wasted.
Chris
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11-24-2009, 01:19 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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No I buy a FW license Steve. Given the financial climate was this good timing for this?? Was this about improving our fishing?? Or was it about more dough for the govenment??? I think the latter!!! I am not one to break the law....and I am also not going to get in dutch over $10......so I will do it....but I do not like it! All you guys who think this money will be going "to the right places" I think will be eating your hat soon enough!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-24-2009, 05:42 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
No I buy a FW license Steve. Given the financial climate was this good timing for this?? Was this about improving our fishing?? Or was it about more dough for the govenment??? I think the latter!!! I am not one to break the law....and I am also not going to get in dutch over $10......so I will do it....but I do not like it! All you guys who think this money will be going "to the right places" I think will be eating your hat soon enough!
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What it's about is complying with a Federal mandate. No more, no less. You can pay Deval $10 or you can pay Barrack $20. Those are the only two choices on the table for 2011.
Anyone who tries to tell you that there's a snowball's chance in hell of beating the Feds on this issue is full of hot air.
No license will be required in Mass in 2010. It's not clear whether we'll have to register with the Feds (my opinion is that we will have to), but the Federal registry is free in 2010.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-24-2009, 06:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Worcester MA
Posts: 79
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How many?
Does anyone have an idea how many recreational fishermen fish in MA? Just wondering how much the state will squeeze from us.
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11-24-2009, 11:36 PM
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The Bawston Whalah
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
What it's about is complying with a Federal mandate. No more, no less. You can pay Deval $10 or you can pay Barrack $20. Those are the only two choices on the table for 2011.
Anyone who tries to tell you that there's a snowball's chance in hell of beating the Feds on this issue is full of hot air.
No license will be required in Mass in 2010. It's not clear whether we'll have to register with the Feds (my opinion is that we will have to), but the Federal registry is free in 2010.
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BS, That is the Deval way out.
So Does your Drivers Licence cover you in say California?
Atleast with the federal licence, you would be good wherever you go.
This sounds as ass backwards of when a commercial vehicle conducted buisness in another state it had to be tagged in that state.
Lets go Re-invent the wheel, ( It's a little known secret In Massachusettes we do it best).
All said and done were all going to piss and moan about it but no one will have the stones to stand up and say %$%$%$%$ YOU Im not doing it. Collectivly everyone has just bent over and taken it the hard way because as a group we all talk hard, but when it gets to doing, individuals roll over at the drop of a hat. Just contributing to the Wussification of America.
Ill probably get kicked off here with this post but oh well.
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11-25-2009, 01:45 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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i'll believe improved access when i see it............ 
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11-25-2009, 07:52 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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$10.00
Just a shot in the dark here, but I would imagine the SW license and getting caught fishing without one will fall under the same exact law as the FW license. And not that I ever enforced that particular law I believe it is an arrestable misdomeanor. You can also be summons, but you can be arrested also.
The administrative costs are the "friends of Deval" he hasn't found a job yet for.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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11-27-2009, 12:33 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary
So Does your Drivers Licence cover you in say California?
Atleast with the federal licence, you would be good wherever you go.
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Gary this statement is not correct. The Federal Rule clearly states the federal plan must be state by state.
Many of the questions being posed in this post have been answered on this board over the past year or two. Another great way to make sure you have good info is to check with your local fishing club.
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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11-27-2009, 01:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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Every one here complaining about $10 
From what could find out through Patrick my lic will be $125.00
And should I go on a friends boat who is rec or go surf fishing , I also need the $10 rec lic !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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11-24-2009, 01:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: CONNECTICUT
Posts: 851
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$10 is a bargain-but with it comes the bigger question-will ri,ct,ny have recripocal rights with mass license or do you gotta buy thats states license to fish there. 
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11-24-2009, 01:32 PM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
Posts: 4,152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HESH2
$10 is a bargain-but with it comes the bigger question-will ri,ct,ny have recripocal rights with mass license or do you gotta buy thats states license to fish there. 
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If this issues has not been addressed, then I say screw it.
They've had how many months/years to fisgure this out?
If it only addtresses the amount of the fee and what it is "intended" to cover then it was a complete waste of our time.
We may need to stage a Massuachusetts Tea party type protest if all issues haven't been properly covered. There is no worse feeling than getting screwed by a panel that failed to address ALL pertinent issues related to this topic.
I do fear that the state will implant one of its stooges into the fisheries budget panel to ensure that they can take and do whatever they want with impunity.
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11-24-2009, 04:58 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,207
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HESH2
$10 is a bargain-but with it comes the bigger question-will ri,ct,ny have recripocal rights with mass license or do you gotta buy thats states license to fish there. 
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as far as Reciprocity goes...
since RI doesn't have a license the answer would be no for that State.
and since CT and NY waters do not border MA then the answer is no for those 2 states.
But we gots 16 miles of NH coastline to frolic on.....
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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11-24-2009, 05:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 404
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Long time coming
This is just the MA roll-out phase of the National Registry. All part of the Marine Recreational Information Program ( Marine Recreational Information Program). I would rather have MA DMF get the funding than the National GF, as those folks have been slashed to bit over the past 10 years.
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11-24-2009, 07:15 PM
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#15
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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$10 dollars is just the foot in the door ...I also wonder if this is going to put a damper on take a kid fishing .. no license no fishy .. I'd just soon pay the combo and get it over with ..
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11-24-2009, 07:52 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,506
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My head would have to be so far up my ass that I would be looking out my mouth to believe anything a politician tells me. 
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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11-24-2009, 08:11 PM
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#17
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Registry?? Why would I register??? If there is no fee I won't bother!!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-24-2009, 09:06 PM
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
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Sucks.I'm not buying one. 
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