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Slingah · 11-24-2009, 12:01 PM

New law would require $10 permit for saltwater fishing - Local News Updates - The Boston Globe

fishbones · 11-24-2009, 12:07 PM

You beat me to it. I was just about to post this, too. $10 isn't bad at all, especially if they use the money for what they say they are going to use it for.

"The revenue collected from the sale of the permits would pay for administrative costs, data collection, programs to improve public access for recreational fishing, better fisheries management."

I'm going to be open minded for now, but I wonder how much of the money collected will be going towards "administrative costs" and how much will go towards improving public access?

Slipknot · 11-24-2009, 12:12 PM

I see Basic Patrick on the left

BigFish · 11-24-2009, 12:17 PM

I see $10 more of my money being sucked up into the political and governmental vacuum!!! They suck!!

FishermanTim · 11-24-2009, 12:22 PM

As long as none of the money collected from licenses or received from the Government ends up in the State's pockets, I'm all for it.

....BUT the second one peeny of these funds ends up in the state's coffers, their ever popular "rainy day fund", then all bets are off.

You know that if the state were to run the fisheries dept like they run the state itself, we'd could walk to Europe across the bodies of all the dead fish and whales. But at least the seals would be saved!

Since the state has done nothing to promote or generate a healthy fisheries environment, they shouldn't get one damn penny.
The state has shown us nothing but how to piss away BILLIONS on useless pet projects and kickbacks.

Bottom line is that I will be watching to see/hear if the state tries to weasel their way into the money, and when they do, the gloves come off....and IT"S ON!

Uncle Rob · 11-24-2009, 12:25 PM

Don't grumble. In CT the Gov. went from $10.00 to $60.00and thats just for saltwater, all outhers have gone way beyond reach also.

Karl F · 11-24-2009, 12:26 PM

Beach Stickers, (in my town) used to be 5 bucks, (before that they was free, and before that they wasn 't needed) and the money was ear marked for Beach Management.... now it is 50 bucks for residents, buck eighty for no resident, and goes into the towns GF..and Beach Management has to fight for its funding like all other departments in town

Domino effect takes place..

FW license and it's "mandatory donation"...(now there is an Oxymoron for ya!)

Congrats..meybe.. time will tell....10 bucks, not bad for now...

Green Cops getting their budget slashed... how will this be enofrced???
I know more and more guys that FW fish (and fish pretty regular too) and don't bother getting the license and never get checked......

not trying to stir chit or cause trouble... just some observations....

Slingah · 11-24-2009, 12:28 PM

It's only $10. If the money is used for what it is supposed to be used for then it is a good thing. I rather keep the money in state then have to pay for a federal permit @ $15-$25.....

luds · 11-24-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Rob

Don't grumble. In CT the Gov. went from $10.00 to $60.00and thats just for saltwater, all outhers have gone way beyond reach also.

So we can look forward to that in 2011.

numbskull · 11-24-2009, 12:30 PM

10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!

Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?

BigFish · 11-24-2009, 12:36 PM

How much will the fine be if you are caught without one?

Will I see any jail time??

Heck! Folks who are caught taking more than their share, caught with herring in their possession are punished less harshly I would bet!!!!!

BEETLE · 11-24-2009, 12:49 PM

Larry -thats cause they play the "no speekee engli" card...

MarshCappa · 11-24-2009, 12:52 PM

Exactly Larry. Not that I advocate breaking the law but how can they expect to enforce with such a limited force(officers) and lots of shoreline. I may roll the dice on registering. This is bull crap big time. It will go up every year mark my words and those funds will not be spent on what it should! Total BS!

BEETLE · 11-24-2009, 01:09 PM

Larry - I'm not happy about this so don't get me wrong - but you fish freshwater - do you buy a license for that or do you go rogue ?

crisco · 11-24-2009, 01:15 PM

I know this may seem like a long-shot...

But do you guys think there could be a way to make a list of shore access spots that we can petition for...or improvements on the time allowed to park/be there, etc?

When we all need to get registered, we could make this into a better outcome. For example....we get 300 registered SW fishermen to say they want a parking spot near loblolly cove (just pick a place)...can the state help us out?

Or will they say that the town has first rights to things like that?

Just an idea...and of course, I find this to be $10 wasted.

Chris

BigFish · 11-24-2009, 01:19 PM

No I buy a FW license Steve. Given the financial climate was this good timing for this?? Was this about improving our fishing?? Or was it about more dough for the govenment??? I think the latter!!! I am not one to break the law....and I am also not going to get in dutch over $10......so I will do it....but I do not like it! All you guys who think this money will be going "to the right places" I think will be eating your hat soon enough!

stcroixman · 11-24-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingah

It's only $10. If the money is used for what it is supposed to be used for then it is a good thing. I rather keep the money in state then have to pay for a federal permit @ $15-$25.....

I agree. Look at RI, no License, all the $$ will now leave the state.

HESH2 · 11-24-2009, 01:21 PM

$10 is a bargain-but with it comes the bigger question-will ri,ct,ny have recripocal rights with mass license or do you gotta buy thats states license to fish there.

BEETLE · 11-24-2009, 01:22 PM

I'm moving to Brazil, can't be many people left there by now...

FishermanTim · 11-24-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HESH2

$10 is a bargain-but with it comes the bigger question-will ri,ct,ny have recripocal rights with mass license or do you gotta buy thats states license to fish there.

If this issues has not been addressed, then I say screw it.
They've had how many months/years to fisgure this out?
If it only addtresses the amount of the fee and what it is "intended" to cover then it was a complete waste of our time.

We may need to stage a Massuachusetts Tea party type protest if all issues haven't been properly covered. There is no worse feeling than getting screwed by a panel that failed to address ALL pertinent issues related to this topic.

I do fear that the state will implant one of its stooges into the fisheries budget panel to ensure that they can take and do whatever they want with impunity.

eastendlu · 11-24-2009, 01:35 PM

Personally i would rather see a federal license because i bet you one of these azzclown governors are going to go against this being reciprocal.NY governor took away the payroll budget slated for the DEC and made it so the license pays for them (he kept his promise not to slate it to the general fund

) so now the DEC is starting off in a deficit.Its just a shell game i swear all these bastages in govt. are nigerian con men.Its not going to be long that it will be $30,$40 or more.

zimmy · 11-24-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Rob

Don't grumble. In CT the Gov. went from $10.00 to $60.00and thats just for saltwater, all outhers have gone way beyond reach also.

I am pretty sure "all waters" will be $50 for the combo next year

buckman · 11-24-2009, 01:58 PM

Wait until you have to go to a Registry to get it..... $50.00 by 2012.... Eff Duval

Sweetwater · 11-24-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!

Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?

This is what is irritating me about this whole thing.

PRBuzz · 11-24-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!

Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?

There should be a variant/possibility where the recreational "boat" buys 1-4 licenses good for the year which can be used to cover anyone coming on board for a friendly day of fishing. What kind of positive ID will be associated with each license?

fishbones · 11-24-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!

Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?

What do they do with the fresh water license when situations like this arise? I now they have daily licenses in some areas. Maybe that will be an option, but what would the cost be? $10 for the year is still pretty reasonable compared to the fresh water license.

striprman · 11-24-2009, 04:38 PM

So when they call you up, what are you going to tell them ? I caught a couple ah cunners and a sculpin ?

Gary · 11-24-2009, 04:53 PM

Just another tax so one of Deval's Relatives has a job. Now does a MA Commercial permit cover ya..........

The Dad Fisherman · 11-24-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HESH2

$10 is a bargain-but with it comes the bigger question-will ri,ct,ny have recripocal rights with mass license or do you gotta buy thats states license to fish there.

as far as Reciprocity goes...

since RI doesn't have a license the answer would be no for that State.

and since CT and NY waters do not border MA then the answer is no for those 2 states.

But we gots 16 miles of NH coastline to frolic on.....

Slick Moedee · 11-24-2009, 05:37 PM

This is just the MA roll-out phase of the National Registry. All part of the Marine Recreational Information Program (Marine Recreational Information Program). I would rather have MA DMF get the funding than the National GF, as those folks have been slashed to bit over the past 10 years.