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11-22-2009, 03:15 PM
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tog talk
will someone give me a brief desciption of their seasonal migration pattern? these things are a new critter to me but man are they fun. i've been looking at charts for days looking for new spots but it would help to know a little more. now it's time to catch some big ones. i haven't targeted any wrecks yet but maybe next trip
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my 1st wife didn't like me fishing so much
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11-22-2009, 03:26 PM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by niko
will someone give me a brief desciption of their seasonal migration pattern? these things are a new critter to me but man are they fun. i've been looking at charts for days looking for new spots but it would help to know a little more. now it's time to catch some big ones. i haven't targeted any wrecks yet but maybe next trip
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Here is a 29 page Nat Marine Fisheries report on the tog Life History and Habitat Requirements:
http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/publicatio...m118/tm118.pdf |
 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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11-23-2009, 04:39 AM
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Location: Franklin Ma
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Looks like somebody is hooked on Tog fishing....
Slammed them on Saturday AM in Rhody.
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11-23-2009, 06:27 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Glad to hear it BL.
We did pretty well, a couple of Lulls, and no real size, but a steady day.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-23-2009, 06:27 AM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
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Niko,
A few real good spots in Narragansett Bay.
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11-23-2009, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Still avaliable here in Newport from the beach. Had a dozen or so into the 6 pound class.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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11-23-2009, 09:18 AM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
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Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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11-23-2009, 09:44 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Remember:
ONLY keep what you need. These are very slow growing fish.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-23-2009, 11:11 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally Posted by DZ
Still avaliable here in Newport from the beach. Had a dozen or so into the 6 pound class.
DZ
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Yup - still available at the traditional spots... 
Got some just shy of 7# - ya gotta love tradition... 
Still looking to hit one out of the park for the club contest here in the bottom of the 9th |
"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-23-2009, 11:45 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
YStill looking to hit one out of the park for the club contest here in the bottom of the 9th
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Me too...
Nothing even worth weighing on for second place.
We'll see if an Oakley retains the crown... BJ is gunning to overtake, so I hear.... |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-23-2009, 02:51 PM
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Crafty, with this upcoming weather pattern you might be swinging at split finger fastballs.
All I know is the fat lady hasn't started to tune up yet.
Happy Turkey Day
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPI I cut my deck to the Queen of Spades, but the cards were all the same
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11-23-2009, 03:10 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Fished Brenton Reef yesterday, the tog are there and in great numbers. Lots of short fish but plenty of keepers too.
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11-23-2009, 03:34 PM
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Location: marshfield
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when does the bite typically die down for these things? and when does it pick up in the spring. don't they have softer mouths at a certain time of year based on what they're eating
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my 1st wife didn't like me fishing so much
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11-23-2009, 04:00 PM
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There is something about this fish that is very appealing to fishermen. Maybe because it is what I call simple fishing, there is no complicated rigs or approach, it is low tech vertical fishing. Find green crabs, and a rock pile and you are there. And the hook set can be maddening at times...this creates more laughs on board. Theses are not giant fish but they can be a ball when the bite gets going. A 10+ lber is a special catch that you will remember for a long time. I love it and look forward to going each year (esp in the fall)
Personally, I love a cold winter day in Jan/Feb and my wife brings me a large hot bowl of tog and scallop chowder with some home made bread...I am telling you sitting next to the fire watching the snow and the wind eating a bowl of this stuff...you feel like a king.
It is starting to slow down here now. You can easily get your limit but the bite is not as furious as it was a few weeks back. I find when the water hits the 40's it starts to slow in the fall. But you can still catch them.
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11-23-2009, 04:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Boston, PRofMA
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Remember:
ONLY keep what you need. These are very slow growing fish.
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Yep...1" per year. So the legal ones are already 16yrs old. And the one I ate this year was 21...
They're fun when they actually act like tog...went a few weeks ago and they fought like wet rags...felt like shorts all the time... |
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11-24-2009, 08:58 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Me too...
Nothing even worth weighing on for second place.
We'll see if an Oakley retains the crown... BJ is gunning to overtake, so I hear....
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BJ's had a helluva year, Bryan - but it ain't over til it's over
Hey, BTW, one of my reliable sources told me that you had a ringer on board last week - none other than Dr O'Nitis himself, the famous Irish marine biologist and former head Togologist... 
Looks like the club contest is being fought to the end this year and the competition is tough - hey, the first initial of the Oakley name on the Capt. Peckham trophy could be "D" too... 
Me, I'm not crying uncle until the 15th...and I've got a gallon of crabs on ready standy-by for every break in the weather we get until then...  ...but 11.6 is gonna be a tough nut to crack from shore
Last edited by Crafty Angler; 11-24-2009 at 09:08 AM..
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-24-2009, 12:25 PM
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i'm gonna go find my 10 pounder tomorrow.
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my 1st wife didn't like me fishing so much
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11-25-2009, 08:15 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally Posted by niko
i'm gonna go find my 10 pounder tomorrow.
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Hope you found it, Niko |
"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-25-2009, 08:52 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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I wasn't there Chuck. The bionic man may be a Jonah though.. ask him about that trip...  |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-25-2009, 09:44 AM
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Chuck,the Irish Togoligist is a pleasure to fish with. He'll tell you everything you don't want to know about the fish.
If you see him ask him about his famous "sky hook" set. I should put it on Youtube.
BJ has had a great year but he may be outmatched in this fishery.
Have a Happy Holiday
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPI I cut my deck to the Queen of Spades, but the cards were all the same
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11-25-2009, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Chuck,the Irish Togoligist is a pleasure to fish with. He'll tell you everything you don't want to know about the fish.
If you see him ask him about his famous "sky hook" set. I should put it on Youtube.
BJ has had a great year but he may be outmatched in this fishery.
As far as when it ends I can only say that I have logs from the 70's when my father and I caught 4-500lbs in January more than once. Of course there wasn't the pressure on them that there is now.
Have a Happy Holiday
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPI I cut my deck to the Queen of Spades, but the cards were all the same
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11-25-2009, 09:49 AM
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Crafty/Brian-
What's the lead in the Newport Club tourney right now?
I'm letting gotofish do all the recon/heavy lifting now - so I can bum a ride post turkey and win |
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11-25-2009, 10:10 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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mooching a ride, I can relate to that Hope you win big guy. |
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11-25-2009, 10:17 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by big jay
Crafty/Brian-
What's the lead in the Newport Club tourney right now?
I'm letting gotofish do all the recon/heavy lifting now - so I can bum a ride post turkey and win |
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-25-2009, 01:52 PM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally Posted by tautog
Chuck,the Irish Togoligist is a pleasure to fish with. He'll tell you everything you don't want to know about the fish.
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Without a doubt - I've known the good doctor for many moons now and we've had more than our share of good laughs
He really is the leading authority, though - and he's got the card to prove it, too
Yup, EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about Tautoga Onitis....whether you knew you wanted to know it or not...
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Originally Posted by tautog
If you see him ask him about his famous "sky hook" set. I should put it on Youtube...
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I'd pay good cash to see that, George - in fact, maybe I'll give him an office call down at the Hibernian and ask him 1st hand...it's just a short crawl from home for me... 
Happy Thanksgiving to you too - and welcome to the newest future contender for the Peckham trophy...we've all got a lot to be thankful for this year...  |
"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-25-2009, 01:59 PM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally Posted by big jay
Crafty/Brian-
What's the lead in the Newport Club tourney right now?
I'm letting gotofish do all the recon/heavy lifting now - so I can bum a ride post turkey and win |
It's 11.6 from shore, Jay - I'm not sure about the boat division
Maybe DZ will chime in to set the current leader board straight
Good luck to ya... |
"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-25-2009, 03:41 PM
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Tog and scallop chowdah with home made bread! That does sound like a meal fit for a king!
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11-28-2009, 10:23 PM
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenyee
Yep...1" per year. So the legal ones are already 16yrs old. And the one I ate this year was 21...
They're fun when they actually act like tog...went a few weeks ago and they fought like wet rags...felt like shorts all the time...
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Sorry but that is incorrect. Their growth rate is much more rapid until sexual maturity (3 or 4yrs old) then it starts to slow. It is more like 2" a year until they are about 7 or 8, then it really slows. By about 12 yrs old they grow less than a half inch a year..and get this.. after 20 yrs they grow about 2-4mm a year. This data is for male tog in northern waters. Females start off growing faster but once they hit about 3yrs old males pass them by. Also FWIW southern tog grow faster than ours up here. Bottom line..They grow slow.. I love them and if I see someone takin shorts... 222 3070 |
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