The Speech and the Direction

[RIJIMMY]

another example of a lack of knowledge of world history.
The "taliban" is just the latest incarnation of the tribal warfare in the regions. These people are not fighting a 2,3,4 year war, they are fighting a 2000 yr war, and have no expectations of peace in their lifetime.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

These people are not fighting a 2,3,4 year war, they are fighting a 2000 yr war, and have no expectations of peace in their lifetime.

Exactly, these people are in no hurry and can lay back as long as they want in
fighting or carrying out terrorist attacks.
Case in point, 8 years between the bombing of the WTC and the 9/11 attack.

While i didn't agree with a lot of the Bush Presidency, he hit the nail on the head
when he said this would be a new and different kind of war fighting terror,
needing new strategies and hi-tech methods. We are their mortal enemies and they will never stop trying to kill us.

They have time on their side and know we are an impatient and instant result people.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

another example of a lack of knowledge of world history.
The "taliban" is just the latest incarnation of the tribal warfare in the regions. These people are not fighting a 2,3,4 year war, they are fighting a 2000 yr war, and have no expectations of peace in their lifetime.

I wasn't paying attention to the whole speach but didn't he say that part of the reason for the timeline was to get the AFG army up to a competent level?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I wasn't paying attention to the whole speach but didn't he say that part of the reason for the timeline was to get the AFG army up to a competent level?

I think thats the idea. A soft deadline to give them a little motivation. Makes sense.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I wasn't paying attention to the whole speach but didn't he say that part of the reason for the timeline was to get the AFG army up to a competent level?

Think 1920-30s Chicago with a police force full of Gambinis,Capones and other mobsters. Who is their allegiance too?

I dont know the solution and I hate to beat a dead horse, but we dont have much of a "change" here. Its another war in another country with people who did not attack us. yes the taliban are linked to al queda, but they werent the ones who pulled 9/11 off. You're dealing with people with a middle ages mentatlity and I dont think our soliders are the solution. massive bombing/nukes may be, but not soliders.

[Fly Rod]

I will just hang out here to see who is right or wrong about the pull out of all American troops by Sept. of 2011.

Read my print! It won't happen!!

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

I will just hang out here to see who is right or wrong about the pull out of all American troops by Sept. of 2011.

Read my print! It won't happen!!

While I agree that the time-table isn't going to happen, where is there mention of all American troops out of Afghanistan by Sept. 2011?

I didn't watch the speech, but everything I've read has said a "draw-down of US troops starting in July, depending on the security situation." There is that convenient qualifier "depending on" that will help Obama talk his way out if this doesn't happen. But I haven't seen all troops out by Sept 2011.