Steve Pagliuca

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by likwid

Sounds just like Bush for the most part!

To which parts of Scottw's quote are you referring?

"never had a real job"--Actually Bush did. He was part owner of the Texas Rangers baseball club for a while and was in the oil business for a while.

"are tax cheats"--Have not heard about Bush cheating on taxes.

"have never created a real job"--Owning a baseball team must create some jobs.

"have no accomplishments outside of government"--See above.

"No verifiable accomplishments while inside government"--Governor of Texas, President of the U.S.? Must be some accomplishments in there somewhere.

"have spent their entire adult lives bashing the free market, capitalism, American exceptionalism and all the while yearning for European style socialism"--Most everything I've heard Bush say was the opposite of this stuff.

"plotting and scheming every way possible . . . to tax, regulate and fee every aspect of our society"--Really? G.W.?

[scottw]

just sounds good and makes em' feel better...Bush, Bush, Cheney, Haliburton, last 8 years....etc...etc...

bet he doesn't know a thing about our "Safe Schools" Czar Ken Jennings, Van Jones, Anita Dunn, Andy Stearn or the many creeps advising this president....or the Global Warming email scandal, all of the stimulus money going to congressional districts that don't exist and the debt ceiling being raise to 2 trillion....facts which, in some cases, apparently make some a bit squeamish and cause them to stick their fingers in their ears and yell BUSH, BUSH, BUSH...as their country slips into oblivion....well....with a little push...

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by detbuch

To which parts of Scottw's quote are you referring?

"never had a real job"--Actually Bush did. He was part owner of the Texas Rangers baseball club for a while and was in the oil business for a while.

I would have ignored this one. An oil company that was thrust into financial disarray while he was an owner (hmm... sounds familiar) and a couple other failed oil ventures.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I would have ignored this one. An oil company that was thrust into financial disarray while he was an owner (hmm... sounds familiar) and a couple other failed oil ventures.

I wasn't comfortable mentioning the oil job, but it was in response to him never having a job outside of government, not whether he was successful in that job. Besides, if I mention the baseball job in which he was successful (the Rangers were not financially sound when he and his partners took over, and it became quite successful under his stay there, and he made several million on the sale of his shares) in fairness I should mention his failure as well. Anyway, one can, and should, learn as much from failure as well as from success.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Besides, if I mention the baseball job in which he was successful (the Rangers were not financially sound when he and his partners took over, and it became quite successful under his stay there, and he made several million on the sale of his shares) in fairness I should mention his failure as well. Anyway, one can, and should, learn as much from failure as well as from success.

Define Successful....Glad HE was successful but the Rangers won one whole play-off game, in the only play-off appearance under Bush's Watch , while he was the Managing General Partner . But HE walked off with a ton of money. Oh, and an Eminent Domain lawsuit hanging in the breeze...that the new owner agreed to pay just to make it go away.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Define Successful....Glad HE was successful but the Rangers won one whole play-off game, in the only play-off appearance under Bush's Watch , while he was the Managing General Partner . But HE walked off with a ton of money. Oh, and an Eminent Domain lawsuit hanging in the breeze...that the new owner agreed to pay just to make it go away.

As spence often likes to say, everything is on a spectrum. A team going from perenially dismal to winning seasons and a play-off performance is a tolerable degree of success--on the mid portion of the spectrum. Walking off with a ton of money is success on the high end of the spectrum. Being able to pay off an Eminent Domain lawsuit is a fruit of that success.