Not about striper but...... - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Sea Flat · 12-15-2009, 12:34 PM

Unfortunately I have to admit that I think some restrictions are needed with regards to BFT, but the big problem is that they are so migratory that it would have to be world wide in order for it to work. Of course this will never happen. This is a big problem, really no way to fix it either.

Islander77 · 12-15-2009, 03:02 PM

Ok well then let them hit the list and NEVER fish for them again.... Period in this country while the others destroy the fishery.. Good plan...

bassmonkey · 12-15-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Flat

Unfortunately I have to admit that I think some restrictions are needed with regards to BFT, but the big problem is that they are so migratory that it would have to be world wide in order for it to work. Of course this will never happen. This is a big problem, really no way to fix it either.

I agree with this. It's better to do the right thing and continuously try to pressure the rest of the world to join in. Then one day we could all fish for the BFT once populations rebound.

Islander77 · 12-15-2009, 10:41 PM

Sea Flat and Bassmonkey your missing a valid point... ONCE on the CITES list it can NEVER BE TAKEN OFF

So if it goes on you will NEVER be fishing for it again IN THIS COUNTRY.. Not a untill it rebounds NEVER.... CITES is not temporary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So feel how you like but being a multi generational fishing family ( and yes my father and his 8 employees do rely on it partly) I am oppossed highly to it being listed as an endagered species..... So let it go on the list like you hope cause then we IN THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT NO WOR EVER AGAIN BE ABLE TO FISH FOR IT... But those othe rcountries will just continue over fishing it and suck up what the USA HAD for a quota and more....

"Worst of all, a CITES listing will shut us down, but will do little to stop the nations doing the overfishing. While in our country a CITES listing means no more fishing, you can bet your ass that is not the case in just about any other ICCAT nation. They will continue to catch bluefin and will do so without many of the regulations in place today. At the same time, Japan and other nations already fishing in the Central Atlantic will likely increase their catches to make up for any loss landings from nations like ours. In the end, as they always do, these nations will find a way around this.

But here in the US, we are screwed. If this goes through, we will all be finding a new job or hobby next summer. And since a listing is essentially permanent, you will have to find one to keep you busy the rest of your lives, because there is no going back once this listing happens"

Sea Flat · 12-16-2009, 09:39 AM

No, I am not missing the point. I see your point and I agree with you that it would be unfair and just stupid for only the U.S. to be the ones not fishing for BFT. The BFT stocks would still not rebound due to the fishing that would continue other places.

I was just adding my 2 cents here that something does in fact need to be done, but only doing it in the U.S. is not going to work. This needs to be a worldwide thing.

Islander77 · 12-16-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Flat

No, I am not missing the point. I see your point and I agree with you that it would be unfair and just stupid for only the U.S. to be the ones not fishing for BFT. The BFT stocks would still not rebound due to the fishing that would continue other places.

I was just adding my 2 cents here that something does in fact need to be done, but only doing it in the U.S. is not going to work. This needs to be a worldwide thing.

My apologies for the misunderstanding, I thought you were saying letting it go on the CITES list would be a good thing..

lurch · 12-16-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Islander77

My apologies for the misunderstanding, I thought you were saying letting it go on the CITES list would be a good thing..

If CITES is an international convention why would only the US be affected?? Is it because other countries will not honor the treaty? Wouldn't they become poachers if the world has banned the sale and hunting of tuna?

If there is a real reason to protect any species from overfishing, even at the expense of commercial fisherman, I am all for it. The commercial fisherman can find another job or hobby but when the species is gone they cannot be brought back.

Islander77 · 12-16-2009, 02:57 PM

CITES is international just we Americans are the ones who live up to it... Other countries IGNORE it and do it anyway...

Sea Flat · 12-17-2009, 12:58 PM

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My apologies for the misunderstanding, I thought you were saying letting it go on the CITES list would be a good thing..

No worries, I didn't exactly make that clear in my first post either. I truly hope that the BFT's stay off that list. I just want everyone (worldwide) to start thinking long term and do something to maintain the fishery.