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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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01-05-2010, 06:15 AM
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Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by eastendlu
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I want you to look at the Mets and Knicks front office and try repeating that again with a straight face.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-05-2010, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I want you to look at the Mets and Knicks front office and try repeating that again with a straight face.
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I was not referring to sports.Plus ya missed the   .
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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01-05-2010, 12:19 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Location: east coast
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When buying things I used to just throw away the warranty card as stuff never broke.
Now i always send in the registry card and get the extended warranty on some expensive things.
Very few take pride in their work anymore.
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" Choose Life "
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01-05-2010, 02:02 PM
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Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Then when you need to exercise the warranty YOU have to ship the product to the manufacturer out of state, not bring it back to the store where it was purchased. 
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01-05-2010, 02:39 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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larry what have i been saying for years....the incompetence level in this country has reached epidemic porportions.
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01-05-2010, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Very few take pride in their work anymore.
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Why should they take pride in their work? Work hard, pay taxes, support your family. Oh, I almost forgot....also support those that would rather not work. There's not a heck of a lot of motivation for people to really work hard in this country. A half-assed effort at most jobs nowadays is enough to keep someone employed. If they get fired it's no big deal. They either move on to another job that rewards mediocrity or someone else can support them. 
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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01-23-2010, 09:20 AM
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BuzzLuck
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Originally Posted by fishbones
There's not a heck of a lot of motivation for people to really work hard in this country. A half-assed effort at most jobs nowadays is enough to keep someone employed. If they get fired it's no big deal. They either move on to another job that rewards mediocrity or someone else can support them. 
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Some of this stems from the "no child left behind" philosophy IMO. If you get fired sue the employer for discrimination, another alternative strategy, that puts fear in the employer's eyes to not fire someone.
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 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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01-23-2010, 10:19 AM
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Location: Rhode Island
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I think it's because most blue-collar employees realize that management views them as little more than dispensable losers. If they do a good job, they will get no raise or promotion or decent benefits, and if they do a lousy job they can look forward to the same.
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01-23-2010, 06:21 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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Originally Posted by Joe
I think it's because most blue-collar employees realize that management views them as little more than dispensable losers. If they do a good job, they will get no raise or promotion or decent benefits, and if they do a lousy job they can look forward to the same.
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if i'm going to dig ditches- i'll be the best dammed ditch digger i can be..it's all about personal pride in my book.
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01-26-2010, 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
I think it's because most blue-collar employees realize that management views them as little more than dispensable losers. If they do a good job, they will get no raise or promotion or decent benefits, and if they do a lousy job they can look forward to the same.
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I find this interesting. When my dad was allowed to join my mom and me in this country after a stint in Siberia and finally the Kruschev "thaw", he got a job at a medium-sized envelope manufacturing co., barely speaking English. It was unionized and, naturally, all jobs were described as to duties and compensation. You didn't have to do more than your job description and could not be paid more or less than what was bargained for. But my dad, not knowing that (or not used to that) would do whatever was needed, description or not, with a great attitude. The owner got to really like him, even payed him extra under the table. When 10 years was up and he qualified for Soc. Sec., he retired, much to the dismay of the owner who wanted him to stay and offered more money under the table. Before that, my mom had raised me by herself working at Hudson's department store. She also was a hard worker. At that time the store was not unionized. When recession occurred and layoffs were necessary, the bosses knew her situation as a single mother and kept her on and furloughed others who had more seniority but worked there as supplement to their husband's income. I have had several jobs from small businesses to large ones. The small business tended to value the exceptional worker. The big ones have what I call cog or slot jobs, mostly union negotiated and described. Anyone can fill them, one cog can replace another. Has it always been this way?
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