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Old 01-05-2010, 10:32 AM   #1
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...That's what people don't realize - nowadays, the best and the brightest are not in law, medicine and finance, they're in the recreational fishing industry - that's what all the really smart people are doing these days.
Geez, Joe, I never thought of that - perhaps the MacArthur Foundation really is looking to grant one of their 'genius' Awards to a fish-head somewhere to further their studies unfettered by financial concerns...

Boy, I called this one wrong - I'll have to admit this thread took a turn I never anticipated...

I've been thinking, maybe Krispy's anger is just the result of a personal epiphany and the pangs of passing through the looking glass into the realm of Zen. Coming to terms with the inevitable paradigm shift is never easy...

Or maybe he's just sick of buying worthless fishing crap...

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Old 01-05-2010, 10:52 AM   #2
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:03 AM   #3
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I've been thinking, maybe Krispy's anger is just the result of a personal epiphany and the pangs of passing through the looking glass into the realm of Zen. Coming to terms with the inevitable paradigm shift is never easy...

Or maybe he's just sick of buying worthless fishing crap...
I was going to go into a diatribe on the changing nature of the relationship between retail, wholesale, and marketing and the effect of the modern, anyone can do it marketing mentality thanks to Facebook, online forums, Twitter, easy to use video editing software and all the other tools now available which are probably the reasons everyone feels so heavily pressured all the time (not just in the fishing industry).

But I didn't really care enough and couldn't fully decipher what was actually going on in the thread so a little humor thanks to the Iron Midget seemed more appropriate.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:09 AM   #4
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Interesting thread and interesting opinions but there is so much more.

I think some try and simplify what we do which is a mistake. There is so much to learn and it’s not all about the “catching”. There are many out there that know how to catch - but just as many don’t know “why” they’re catching. I’ve been fishing the surf for about 40 years and in that time I’ve met maybe two hands worth of fishermen who IMO truly understand how to consistently take large bass from the surf – all of them had an intimate relationship with the areas they fished regularly and could easily adapt to a new location. They not only knew where and when – but they all took the time to try and uncover the reasons why.

I’ve had fishermen ask me for some guidance about where to fish in Newport or Block – I usually provide them with a baseline of locations and tides. But very few have ever asked me why this spot and why at this time? Those are the questions you need to try and answer and believe me it would take more than one page to list them. This is what I try and convey in some of my writing and seminars.

For example: Interested Surfcaster- “What is the one location I should cast when I go to Block?” DZ – “Fish the bar at SW.” Interested surfcaster – “Great, thanks!”
Follow up question that should be asked but wasn’t: Interested surfcaster – “Why the bar at SW?” DZ – “The bar at SW is a feeding station during the last three hours of the ebb. The current pulls hard right to left and as the water level drops it will allow you to fish all three sides of a cobble bar. Sand eels like to bury in the sandy areas between the cobble. There is a slight drop in the bowl to the north – many times the bass will be stationed on this lip so don’t end your retrieve too soon as the bass will hit just as your lifting your plug out of the water. Sometimes they station on the point of the outer edge of the bar and long casts are needed to reach them so get there early and try to position yourself with a shot at the point. Cast toward the light at Montauk on the left side of the bar – barely retrieve your Gibbs needle – don’t worry it won’t hang up because the pulling current will help keep it skimming the surface, just like a live Atlantic Needlefish. It’s very shallow on that side but the bass will all be pointed in your direction waiting for your needlefish. Strikes can be subtle – if you feel any weight – set! That is how to fish the bar with calm water and no sea. Now if you have a wind from the Northwest….”

You’ll never learn the entire “why question”. I know if I did I would have quit fishing long ago.

How's it going Rizzo!

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You’ll never learn the entire “why question”. I know if I did I would have quit fishing long ago.

How's it going Rizzo!

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Hey Dennis - its been a while too! Check your PM!
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:16 AM   #6
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...But I didn't really care enough and couldn't fully decipher what was actually going on in the thread so a little humor thanks to the Iron Midget seemed more appropriate.
And probably one of the best from the Oracle of Anheiser, Pete...

I remember a guy saying once it's just fishing, it's supposed to be fun...

"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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