Patriots vs Ravens

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Dad 818

O-Line: Light flat out sucks. Mankins and Neal are FAs.
D-Line: Wilfork and Green are FAs. Non-existant Pass Rush, completely run over today.
LB: No pass rush with the rare occassion that TBC gets through.
CB: Bodden will be gone, Wilhite and Wheatley are useless and Springs can't stay on the field.
S: Meriweather cannot tackle. He may have made the Pro Bowl, but he seems afraid of any sort of contact. Sanders is JAG. Chung hardly saw any defensive snaps.

RB: Maroney needs to work on his hands this entire offseason. Otherwise he's gone.

I've been looking forward to the off-season for the draft and any other changes they make for a while now.

A lot of things just don't seem to click with this team. Time for some new blood. New names, better skills, and last but not least more passion. Better not screw up those draft picks.

I'd have to say I really don't get the "fire Belichick" mentality that's out there though. Seems more then a little early for that.

[MarshCappa]

Weak game & a weak season! Brady is soft now, I'm not saying he can't be great but I think he's gt that been there done that kinda attitude. This team needs a shake up. I don't know what exactly but something or someone major needs to go or come in.

[striperman36]

he's been Gazelle'd
He'll be in Brazil next week sunning by the pool

[Dad 818]

Originally Posted by Pete_G

I've been looking forward to the off-season for the draft and any other changes they make for a while now.

A lot of things just don't seem to click with this team. Time for some new blood. New names, better skills, and last but not least more passion. Better not screw up those draft picks.

I'd have to say I really don't get the "fire Belichick" mentality that's out there though. Seems more then a little early for that.

Too be fair to Belichick he was spread out way too thin this season. That clown they had calling plays obviously needed help. It's funny that these "fans" who are calling for BBs head, forget the 70's, 80's and 90's.

This team forgot how to win the close games. What was very telling for me was the fact that the player who played IN A PLAYOFF GAME with the most fire, guts, heart, balls, emotion was a 40year old backup linebacker.

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Dad 818

What was very telling for me was the fact that the player who played IN A PLAYOFF GAME with the most fire, guts, heart, balls, emotion was a 40year old backup linebacker.

That said it all to me too. Him and Kevin Faulk. Very few other players on the team seem to have that passion. Looked like a lot of guys didn't have their head in the game in this game and others this year. I wouldn't dare claim to know who or why there seems to be that ethic in the Pats, but it seems to be there.

[Slipknot]

Maybe they need to get back to going to movies as a team and other stuff like back in the winning years. they need that all for one and one for all attitude, us against the world, come out as a team stuff

I'll have a word with Bill.

[Saltheart]

Fire Bill?? That's pretty stupid!

And so this season ends and preparing for the next one begins tomorrow!

[afterhours]

one of the reasons for the poor play is this team lost it's 'tude.....gone the way of the finesse soft teams. a couple of seasons ago they could tough it out with anydody. time for a rebuild- could be a tall task considering the draft track record.

[Dad 818]

Originally Posted by afterhours

one of the reasons for the poor play is this team lost it's 'tude.....gone the way of the finesse soft teams. a couple of seasons ago they could tough it out with anydody. time for a rebuild- could be a tall task considering the draft track record.

Yup. They seem to have the "We are the Patriots, we won 3 Super Bowls" attitude and it doesn't work anymore.

Your point about the drafts is spot on. And the part that really upsets me is the fact that it seems like any fan can see we need LBs in the worst way. And the people in charge of picking can't. We passed on Matthews, Laurinaitis, and Maualuga in last year's draft. Every damn Packer game, I see Matthews flying all around the QB. Lil' Animal or Maualuga would have solidified our ILB core for years and years.

Although I do think last season's draft will turn out better than it appears, I would gladly trade Chung for one of those LBs.

[Dad 818]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Maybe they need to get back to going to movies as a team and other stuff like back in the winning years. they need that all for one and one for all attitude, us against the world, come out as a team stuff

I'll have a word with Bill.

Give him a plug and tell him to draft 2 pass-rushers!

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Dad 818

Give him a plug and tell him to draft 2 pass-rushers!

The best d-lineman in the draft is Suh out of Nebraska, and he'll be long gone. He may even go as the top pick overall.

All those years of trading down to avoid top draft position signing bonuses, of letting veterans walk rather than paying them, throwing guys like Vrabel into a trade when there was no need to--how long can you sustain a defense? Especially when your 3 biggest defensive F/A signings, Colvin, Thomas and Burgess, turned out to be busts and/or locker room cancers.

[Dad 818]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The best d-lineman in the draft is Suh out of Nebraska, and he'll be long gone. He may even go as the top pick overall.

I'm glad there's more than one pass rusher in the draft. Obviously we have no shot at Suh (but what a player)

Just a couple off the top of my head.
Carlos Dunlap-Florida: Has had a couple off field issues.
Jerry Hughes-TCU: Could move to OLB. Maybe bigger stats due to competition.
Sergio Kindle-Texas: Another guy who could shift to OLB.
Jason Pierre-Paul-South Florida: Stepped up this year with teammate George Selvie having a down year.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Pete_G

I'd have to say I really don't get the "fire Belichick" mentality that's out there though. Seems more then a little early for that.

people who say that don't have a clue