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I agree the debate will go on forever. I just don't get what we are debating, what is the point. This thread is now so confused with so many separate issues that it is not going anywhere.
Seriously, I welcome and actually urge many threads and debates but what is the point of debate if the stated problem keeps changing and the potential solutions are not focused. Reads a bit like a lot of whining and sub agendas to me. LEts separate them out and have some intelligent discussions on individual subject matter.
I just hope some of the banter of those engaged in this debate turns into more action at future meeitngs. At the upcoming ASMFC we will hear the report on the stock asessment update and that is the time to voice our concerns. I hope some organizations actually show up. Obviously most people have to work but that is why we join clubs and raise money for organizations, correct?
Will Stripers Forever be there?
We'll see who shows up as I (MSBA) will be there, honoring Bob Ponds legacy of science based management and not fisherman's bull %$%$%$%$.
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