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01-26-2010, 09:38 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,889
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Sorry guys, I cannot remember everything about the rain runoff but it has to do with an area in the estuaries where the bass fry stage and grow. The more rain or fresh water the further us the estuarie and thus less saltwater and food. The discussion got very technical at that point in regard to turbidity of the water due to the salt content etc.
It was just a real interesting take on the Bass population. The one thing the Dr. did say when asked if the bass fishing will get better or worse he said that it will get worse and this year will not be as good as last year or any of the previous years back to 2003.
Bryan, thnaks for the correction on the NAO. Cycle vs. anomoly is certainly a big difference.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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01-26-2010, 10:00 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
...It was just a real interesting take on the Bass population. The one thing the Dr. did say when asked if the bass fishing will get better or worse he said that it will get worse and this year will not be as good as last year or any of the previous years back to 2003...
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Well, that's good to know - now I can stop futzing around in my tackle room for hours on end and find something else useful to do... 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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01-26-2010, 11:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Manasquan, N.J.
Posts: 286
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The part about rain volume, has more to do with good current flow, and optimal spanwing (egg-laying) conditions and stability in the river during the spawming period, and less to do with run-off (pollution).
If you think about it more rain would also dilute fertilizer and chemical run off and push more volume further in the bay, etc. A small amount of rain (snow melt) would give much more concentrated "polluted" water, slower flow, which in turn causes increased plant (algea) growth come spring and more sun. That causes more problems as previously stated.
It is a complex web of interconnected variables.
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01-26-2010, 11:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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I would swear that theory is directly opposite of the reasoning in the prior days. IMO it is this kind of "science" that ruins their credibility.  Do they make this stuff up as they go?
Now I believe even less of what they say. 
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01-26-2010, 03:25 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,519
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Having my curiosity piqued. And following RIROCKHOUND's thoughts about following reasons for study, I just printed 7 reports on Menhaden research. Went through a lot of paper. I tried to get biased and neutral points of view. From save the bay, Omegas own funded research, woods hole, rutgers university and even the book The most important fish in the sea, and a few others.
With highlighter in hand I will glean what I can and see if I can find an answer to my simple question.
How much of an affect do Menhaden have on water clarity and or quality ?
At first quick glance they do not draw the same conclusions, I am not surprised.
Oh my Mom says she is my Mom and I need to get a life, I'm too old to be strange.
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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01-26-2010, 03:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Originally Posted by MAKAI
Having my curiosity piqued. And following RIROCKHOUND's thoughts about following reasons for study, I just printed 7 reports on Menhaden research. Went through a lot of paper. I tried to get biased and neutral points of view. From save the bay, Omegas own funded research, woods hole, rutgers university and even the book The most important fish in the sea, and a few others.
With highlighter in hand I will glean what I can and see if I can find an answer to my simple question.
How much of an affect do Menhaden have on water clarity and or quality ?
At first quick glance they do not draw the same conclusions, I am not surprised.
Oh my Mom says she is my Mom and I need to get a life, I'm too old to be strange.
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And you can't go salmonid hunting with me this week, why?
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01-26-2010, 07:18 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,519
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
And you can't go salmonid hunting with me this week, why?
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below zero wind chills sat and sun
what time do you want me to pick you up?
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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