Biden is a complete dope.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Economists expected job losses to continue well into 2010. Many also believe that the stimulus has certainly helped to curb this decline...by creating jobs.

Even the CBO says the stimulus has created jobs.

-spence

Saved jobs maybe, teachers, firefighters, policemen, DPW workers. Not a bad thing but not added jobs.

Added jobs? 64000 government workers on permanent taxpayer payroll. Big friggin misuse of money we had to borrow. Maybe you think thats a good thing but it pisses me off.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Saved jobs maybe, teachers, firefighters, policemen, DPW workers. Not a bad thing but not added jobs.

Added jobs? 64000 government workers on permanent taxpayer payroll. Big friggin misuse of money we had to borrow. Maybe you think thats a good thing but it pisses me off.

Saved and added is the same thing if you can stop a job that's being cut from being cut.

Ultimately it's about the net.

And like I said, it's not just about government jobs...the private sector is starting to move, including manufacturing employment.

Again, I don't think 2010 is going to be easy, but we're definitely off the bottom.

-spence