NC STRIPERS

[robc22]

Originally Posted by STOKES

Hello all, I'm a newbie here so be easy on me. I live here on the Outer Banks and would like to respond to a couple comments I've read on this board recently. I've been an avid Striper fisherman since 1992. That's when the Rock first reappeared here on the OB since they dissappeared in the 60's. My first ocean caught Rock was 53 lbs, and I was instantly addicted. I haven't topped it since and I've caught thousands! The REALLY BIG problem as I see it is commercial waste. I mean either Rock being caught as bycatch by the Omega Protein types or as DISCARD by the trawlers. The quotas established for commercial fishing are being caught many times over but many never make it to market. For years we've seen it down here and recently it has been horrible. The trawl boys are only allowed 100 fish per vessel which is absolutely ridiculous! How do they expect a trawler to set a net and only catch 100? They catch up to 10,000 in a set, pick the biggest 100 and THROW THE REST OVERBOARD....DEAD!!!!!! Let's just say it was only 3000, that's a 300% overcatch/bycatch ratio!!! For every fish kept, 300 DEAD & WASTED! It's happened a couple times here over the past 2-3 weeks. 3 weeks ago I got a report from a friend working on a drop net boat fishing Sea Mullet (Whiting) who witnessed a trawler dumping THOUSANDS of dead Stripers right on the edge of the EEZ, it made him & his captain sick. Many of the other commercial captains & crews were pissed off by the sight as well, not to mention the charter captains & recreational anglers who saw it. They're not all bad guys, they're just trying to make a buck like everyone else & most play by the rules, but some morally corrupt dirtbags like the captain of the trawler in question just don't care!!! It happened again weekend before last INSIDE of Oregon Inlet in the area known as Hell's Gate which is west of Oregon Inlet on the way to Wanchese (the comm. fishing port). THOUSANDS of dead Stripers were seen from the sea buoy all the way up the channel into Davis Slough. The phone was ringing all day as we tried to get pics or video of the offending vessel with no luck. Thing is, I found out IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!!!! The law says that fish isn't caught 'til it's in the hold. The rules need to be changed NOW. If they're going to allow trawling, they need to lift the 100 fish limit and make it mandatory that all fish caught need to be kept and that poundage is applied to the quota. If they want to keep a limit of 100 fish per vessel to keep the market price up, make them fish hook & line. Either solution combined with better enforcement would prevent TENS OF THOUSANDS of Stripers from being WASTED. The beach seiners share their over-catch with the others who haven't caught their limit, why can't the trawlers? My dad taught me at at a very young age: "IF YOU KILL IT, YOU'VE GOTTA EAT IT". I'm also an advocate of tighter limits on recreational catches as well. I say issue tags much like we get for deer hunting to limit how many are caught and of what size. Make it mandatory to report your catch so the quota could be monitored and possibly issue 1 trophy tag per person per year so you can keep that fish of a lifetime. Just my 2 cents worth. Lawful recreational fishing is not the problem!

STOKES

If this is really going on It could and should be documented with video cameras......lets see the proof of thousands of bass being dumped as dead by-catch......then something can be done about it......

[WoodyCT]

Somebody needs to go out with the express purpose of documenting this crap that will cost us our bass AGAIN!

A picture is worth a thousand words.

[Clammer]

Sounds as thru your state is run by the same officials as RI ....................... money talks ;;

otherwise how the %$%$%$%$ could state & federal agencies continue to let this slaughter continue ;;;;

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by Clammer

Sounds as thru your state is run by the same officials as RI ....................... money talks ;;

otherwise how the f uck could state & federal agencies continue to let this slaughter continue ;;;;

NMFS destroying fishermen and their communities since 1976.. HATE TO BREAK IT TO YA CLAMMER THEY RUN THE WHOLE SHOW 3 MILES OR MORE OUT MAN... they are the ones with the regs and all that federal....

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by WoodyCT

Somebody needs to go out with the express purpose of documenting this crap that will cost us our bass AGAIN!

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Woody my friend and friends on this board... Please go to galilee grocery and spend $12 on the truth video itll open your eyes.. YES BYCATCH happens and it used to be just that bycatch YOU COULD LEGALLY SELL... AGAIN I say thank NMFS and the bunch of retards that are the biggest pool of the smartest kids with down syndrome... If WE COULD LEGALLY LAND IT, IT WOULD NOT BE WASTE NOW WOULD IT?????? I DONT BELIEVE ANY COMMERCIAL GUY GOES AND TARGETS FISH TO WIPE OUT ITS OUR LIVING... We dont want to destroy our living.. The Magnuson-Stevenson act and the way its interpeted by the grand old NMFS is the cause the boats can make a single tow for target fish make a check but are REQUIRED BY LAW TO THROW BACK WAY MORE DEAD THAN KEEP WHAT WE CATCH.. THERE IS THE REALITY THE NMFS AND NOAA MAKES US DO THIS CRAP. THEY SAY WE ARE DISCARDING TO MUCH SO RESTRICT MORE AND CAUSE MORE DEATH.. SORRY BUT THIS IS BEYOND RETARDED THE AMERICAN FARMER AND FISHERMAN ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE WORLD AND NO BODY PAYS ATTENTION... Now I know the term "overfished" is in every text book in the world.. but how do explain scallops SIX FEET DEEP DEAD CAUSE THEY ARE KILLING EACH OTHER BY THEIR WEIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER OH AND WAIT SOME ARE THE SIZE OF DINNER PLATES THE OVAL ONES NO LIE... Fluke that dont fit in a 18" tube??? what??? a fluke yea seen it first hand.. but what do I KNOW??? I only go out there like so few others now a days and work and risk my life to catch fish.. that we cant keep... so again I say if any of you lived with the restrictions we do for work you wouldnt be so happy.. NORTH EAST COMMERCIAL FISHING IS THE MOST REGULATED INDUSTRY IN THE WORLD THAT IS A FACT... WE CANT LEAVE THE DOCK WITH OUT SUBMITTING A REQUEST AND SAYING WHERE WE ARE GONNA FISH FOR HOW LONG AND EVERYTHING ELSE.... ALL BOATS ARE GPS TRACKED BY FEDS TOO SO IT WOULD NOT BE HARD TO "TARGET THIS BOAT" WITH THEIR HELP... AND FISH ARE NOT CAUGHT UNTILL IN THE HOLD AND ARE NOT "LANDED" UNTILL ON THE DOCK.. IF YOU CAN GET THEM THERE WITH OUT COAST GAURD AND GREEN COPS UP YOUR COLON... Sorry guys dont blame the workers blame the correct people the " managment" which is nothing more than MIS-MANAGMENT......

[WoodyCT]

What's it called?
Where's the store?

[jmac]

...hope the original message wasn't a troll......

[Islander77]

video info
TITLE:

TRUTH: Fishing crisis or Government mismanagment

STORE:

Galilee grocery the deli at the point...

PRICE: $12 a copy I have a copy if some one can burn em for cheaper lol

Take RT. 108 to "escape Rd." the road you take to get to the Block Island ferry at stop sign take right go to Rd. on right and turn into parking lot of Galilee Grocery...

[Islander77]

JMAC I hope your right also.... My blood pressure is just fime its not blowing 40+ with 20 footers or better while im trying to work... lmao

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by Islander77

Woody my friend and friends on this board... Please go to galilee grocery and spend $12 on the truth video itll open your eyes.. YES BYCATCH happens and it used to be just that bycatch YOU COULD LEGALLY SELL... AGAIN I say thank NMFS and the bunch of retards that are the biggest pool of the smartest kids with down syndrome... If WE COULD LEGALLY LAND IT, IT WOULD NOT BE WASTE NOW WOULD IT?????? I DONT BELIEVE ANY COMMERCIAL GUY GOES AND TARGETS FISH TO WIPE OUT ITS OUR LIVING... We dont want to destroy our living.. The Magnuson-Stevenson act and the way its interpeted by the grand old NMFS is the cause the boats can make a single tow for target fish make a check but are REQUIRED BY LAW TO THROW BACK WAY MORE DEAD THAN KEEP WHAT WE CATCH.. THERE IS THE REALITY THE NMFS AND NOAA MAKES US DO THIS CRAP. THEY SAY WE ARE DISCARDING TO MUCH SO RESTRICT MORE AND CAUSE MORE DEATH.. SORRY BUT THIS IS BEYOND RETARDED THE AMERICAN FARMER AND FISHERMAN ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE WORLD AND NO BODY PAYS ATTENTION... Now I know the term "overfished" is in every text book in the world.. but how do explain scallops SIX FEET DEEP DEAD CAUSE THEY ARE KILLING EACH OTHER BY THEIR WEIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER OH AND WAIT SOME ARE THE SIZE OF DINNER PLATES THE OVAL ONES NO LIE... Fluke that dont fit in a 18" tube??? what??? a fluke yea seen it first hand.. but what do I KNOW??? I only go out there like so few others now a days and work and risk my life to catch fish.. that we cant keep... so again I say if any of you lived with the restrictions we do for work you wouldnt be so happy.. NORTH EAST COMMERCIAL FISHING IS THE MOST REGULATED INDUSTRY IN THE WORLD THAT IS A FACT... WE CANT LEAVE THE DOCK WITH OUT SUBMITTING A REQUEST AND SAYING WHERE WE ARE GONNA FISH FOR HOW LONG AND EVERYTHING ELSE.... ALL BOATS ARE GPS TRACKED BY FEDS TOO SO IT WOULD NOT BE HARD TO "TARGET THIS BOAT" WITH THEIR HELP... AND FISH ARE NOT CAUGHT UNTILL IN THE HOLD AND ARE NOT "LANDED" UNTILL ON THE DOCK.. IF YOU CAN GET THEM THERE WITH OUT COAST GAURD AND GREEN COPS UP YOUR COLON... Sorry guys dont blame the workers blame the correct people the " managment" which is nothing more than MIS-MANAGMENT......

Your kidding right!

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

Your kidding right!

Kiddding about what???? Ok sorry I keep forgetting Im the enemy in all this.. So I must be your all right we just whine and cry so we get attention... So everyone else can go to the store and buy seafood... yup were the raping devils.. Whatever man we take the fall for bs from this all when ITS NOT US... but whatever that book says thats how it is right????? All people remeber one thing...

NO FARMERS = NO FARMS CORRECT???? NO FISHERMAN = NO FISH.....
Wow who woulda thought but its ok that every 1$ of fish landed generates 4$ after the fact for the economy but hey we are all liars right

[beamie]

My opinion.

By allowing the sale of bycatch many fisherman would purposely start targeting that species.

Bycatch happens to every specie but it always seems so dramatic when stiped bass are involved

A sustained fishery can't keep up with modern technology. Better fishfinding gear, better bigger nets, boats etc. is just too much of an advantage.

I always said go back to hook and line. You can't tell me a comm bottom fisherman that has a 30-40 foot boat couldn't make a living with 3-4 auto jiggers on the rail. Reducing bycatch or at least improving the mortality rate of it.

Sure, no comm fisherman will say they want to catch every last fish and kill there way of life, but when your trying to put money on the table who packs it in for the day when you had a killer set and the fish are still there......I know when the big bass are around and I still have live pogies in the well I don't get home when I planned tooooo.

The regs can certainly be improved for the better but there is no regulation(s) that everyone will be happy with, that is just human nature.