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02-19-2010, 08:40 AM
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the government must want to regulate and red tape the country into bankruptcy 
pathetic
who allows the EPA to do this stuff
I bet real estate agents won't be informing any prospective buyers about this if they have kids and the house is older than 1978 
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02-19-2010, 09:12 AM
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Just put a call into my Congressman, John Tierney. People answering phone in DC, and Peabody had not heard a thing about it. They were pretty surprised, so I expect I will hear back.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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02-19-2010, 10:24 AM
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for those with out PDF
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04-06-2010, 07:37 PM
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Bumping this up for those that missed it. And I heard back from none of my elected officials.... surprise, surprise. Taxes going up, regulatory requirements going up, and fines going up for the working man. $275 for the course, and $300 to register with the state.... Country's gone to hell..... Between this and the new OSHA requirements, the small businessman in the building trade is screwed. This will trickle down to every homeowner. Just another way to keep the construction industry from helping us get out of this crappy economy.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-06-2010, 07:41 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Small job lead abatement has never been worth it in the first place.
Friends just turned down a job at a church based on the ins costs along with the liability of the lead.
And they already have the equipment along with the workers trained in it.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-06-2010, 07:58 PM
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This isn't lead abatement, this is remodeling, renovating, and painting.... Gotta do zip walls and white suits to do a single window replacement....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-07-2010, 05:18 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
This isn't lead abatement, this is remodeling, renovating, and painting.... Gotta do zip walls and white suits to do a single window replacement....
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And some dude does a halfassed job and someone gets cancer in the house/business/whatever and sues everyone from the paint company to the GC's helper.
That what you want?
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-07-2010, 10:04 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
the government must want to regulate and red tape the country into bankruptcy 
pathetic
who allows the EPA to do this stuff
I bet real estate agents won't be informing any prospective buyers about this if they have kids and the house is older than 1978 
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Slip RE agents are required by law to do a lead disclosure with prospective buyers. The whole lead thing imo is the biggest friggen scam in the world. I had someone test for lead, they came with the radargun. Said I had lead in a certain area, so I got a do it your self test and found no lead there.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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04-07-2010, 10:10 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
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Location: Abington, MA
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BTW I am low to moderate risk lead abatement certified, and half the crap in the class made no sense.
Which makes more lead dust, ripping out and replacing a door jamb, or rocking over a wall that has some loose plaster?
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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04-08-2010, 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
Slip RE agents are required by law to do a lead disclosure with prospective buyers. The whole lead thing imo is the biggest friggen scam in the world. I had someone test for lead, they came with the radargun. Said I had lead in a certain area, so I got a do it your self test and found no lead there.
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When it comes to real estate both the seller and the buyer are required to fill out the state and federal lead paint notification if the house was built prior to 1978. There is a loop hole for the seller and that is they can check off that it is Unknown to them of lead paint.
Also any property owner of rental properties must do the same in which a child under six years old lives. And if the owner fails to delead and a child is lead poisoned the property owner is strictly liable for all damages.
Property owner can not discriminate against a family of a child under six if they can afford the rent.
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04-08-2010, 03:43 PM
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Here's a great write up on the ruling:
New EPA Lead Paint Rules Increase Renovation Costs —Professional tool reviews for the average Joe
And a portion of it,
"These new EPA rules are going to apply to buildings built prior to 1978 and will affect jobs ranging from full-blown renovations, down to simple window replacements and paint jobs. If the job covers more than 6 square feet - it's now regulated. Members of the National Association of Homebuilders (NAHB) estimate the added regulations will increase project costs anywhere from $500 to $1,500 for projects costing over $5,000. Of course, the EPA disagrees, feeling that these regulations will yield only a modest $35 increase per job.
And we wonder why the government gets into debt."
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