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Old 02-26-2010, 09:30 AM   #1
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When I was younger my parents barely acknowledged the fact we were in school and never had questions regarding homework and school activities.
But what happened if the school sent home a letter saying you were disrespecting the teachers.......thats the difference. Back then my dad never went to a single parent teacher conference.....but If I screwed up at school I sure as hell dreaded what was coming when I got home.

Nowadays if the kid screws up at school.....its the teachers fault....not the kids.

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Old 02-26-2010, 10:32 AM   #2
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But what happened if the school sent home a letter saying you were disrespecting the teachers.......thats the difference. Back then my dad never went to a single parent teacher conference.....but If I screwed up at school I sure as hell dreaded what was coming when I got home.

Nowadays if the kid screws up at school.....its the teachers fault....not the kids.
This falls into something I've sure you've seen me mention before... a significant decrease in the sense of responsibility in parents. It is always someone else's fault that their child is a screw up - video games made my kid shoot up that school (Columbine), violent movies, South Park, Family Guy, Jackass... hell, even "Dr." Phil is reported to partially blame video games for the VTech shootings.

Many parents tend not to discipline their kids any more, they just make excuses for them. I taught in an after school program and saw it every day.

But the parents can't be the only ones to blame.

One of the other issues I think exists in all schools school systems (along with just about all union jobs) is the seniority based pay system and a lack of merit-based pay. Once you are hired, where's the incentive to perform well? If you don't have enough years under your belt and budget cuts come up, you get fired regardless of how well you perform your job. If you're tenured, you can go along for 20 years performing the minimum necessary requirements then retire at 55 with a pension.

It's a joke.

If it wasn't for the union, this wouldn't have happened. The under-performing and over-paid teachers could be fired to make room for better teachers.

The entire system from top to bottom, Superintendent to parents are to blame for a 50% graduation rates. Parents want the village to raise their children, the teachers don't give a damn because the kids are disrespectful. It's a shame really. Too bad there isn't a test you have to take before you can have kids.
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Nowadays if the kid screws up at school.....its the teachers fault....not the kids.
Well, no disrespect intended if it works for you. I realize kids,especially teens are going to screw up. But if were a case of disrupting the class or being disrespectful to any adult,it would not fly in my world.Some things can be overlooked, but you have got to stick to your principles.
IMO MCAS is the best thing to ever happen to our schools,in that it provides accountability from teachers as well as pupils.Teaching most subjects is incredibly easy, considering it is generally the same curriculum being recycled every year.Unfortunately I have been shocked at some teachers I have met with through the years. Some really go through the motions.

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Well, no disrespect intended if it works for you. I realize kids,especially teens are going to screw up. But if were a case of disrupting the class or being disrespectful to any adult,it would not fly in my world.
Er Umm....I agree with you....that doesn't fly with me either. I was saying that it flies with too many other people today. That seems to be what a lot of people these days think.

Trust me....My kids Effs up...... he Owns up. And feel free to ask him he'll tell you such.

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