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03-06-2010, 06:19 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: L.I.NY
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Conrad Lips
I just turned afew Conrads . They are about 5.5" long , 1.125 Dia head .
What lip would you [did you ] use .. thoughts were pikie 2 looks small ,
pikie 3 looks big , new lip Danny 3 looks ok
I'm comparing them to an old BM conrad. Not sure what Pichney lp is closest to ??
I'm a little pissed since these new Danny 3's were sold to me under the guise of Conrads lips  |
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03-06-2010, 06:44 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pembroke,MA
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#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is making conrad lips now.
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03-06-2010, 07:38 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Salty's are dead on for the Conrad Jr, and reportedly Conrad Sr lips will be available soon (or maybe already)  |
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03-06-2010, 08:45 PM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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Who sold you Danny lips as a Conrad lip?
Numby I got about 1500 hole punched with another 1000 to go and hope to start bending next week while mr irs man is here.
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03-06-2010, 11:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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 Set 10 Sr.s aside for me please. PM me when ready.  |
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03-07-2010, 07:06 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Salty's are dead on for the Conrad Jr, and reportedly Conrad Sr lips will be available soon (or maybe already) |
Don't hoard them all...leave a few for us little guys. |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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03-07-2010, 08:50 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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I saw those lips yesterday and they look great.Unfortunately I made about a 100 of each so I won't need any till I'm about 60 but it will be nice to buy them instead.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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03-07-2010, 09:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: L.I.NY
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I could use about 20 of each jr & sr.
If they are available, please advise.  |
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03-07-2010, 09:26 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
I saw those lips yesterday and they look great.Unfortunately I made about a 100 of each so I won't need any till I'm about 60 but it will be nice to buy them instead.
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Isn't that like next year? |
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03-08-2010, 01:03 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Where can I get the specs for a Conrad?
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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03-08-2010, 01:57 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
Where can I get the specs for a Conrad?
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PM sent |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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03-09-2010, 10:24 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Jersey
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I have a couple of Conrad Jr questions.
Dave Anderson did a nice how to in The Fisherman recently that showed the Jr with one belly hook. The Conrad Jr that I got from PM, who I know to be a stickler for detail, has two. Where these made with two different hook configurations?
Also, Salty's site lists the upper slot lip for the surface swimmer and the mid slot lip for the sub surface. This seems backwards to me, am I missing something? I know I could just ask you Scott, but I figure there's some other guys who might want to know. |
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03-09-2010, 10:48 AM
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I don't think Danny Pichney ever made a single belly hook Conrad or Conrad Jr. I've never seen one. I have a pretty good collection of his stuff here to go by. Several versions of the Conrad and Conrad Jr-no two lips are ever the same either because they were hand cut.
The higher the slot the higher it will swim. The lower the slot the lower the line tie and it will dig more.
I'm still curious who is selling danny 3 lips and representing them as Conrad lips.
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03-09-2010, 11:14 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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no, 2 belly hooks as far as I know, even peanut had 2. That was just Dave's version to maybe suit a need he had. Not saying one is better than the other, just his wants.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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03-09-2010, 12:49 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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[QUOTE=#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&;753258]
The higher the slot the higher it will swim. The lower the slot the lower the line tie and it will dig more.
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Careful, I think you've got that one reversed. High slot lips go deep, low slot lips stay up. The distance between the line tie and the bottom part of the lip is the crucial dimension. The farther apart the greater the depth. There is also some lifting action that occurs with surface swimmers when the line tie is low that keeps them coming up. That is also why you bend the line tie down to go up and up to go down. Gets confusing.
Pardon the begging, but it is another reason why we want a midslot Pikie 3 lip option to replicate the original large Pichney surface swimmer lip.
Either that or a run of these new conrad sr lips with a mid slot (the actual Sr lip has a high slot, but the larger pichney atom and the slope head used a midslot conrad style lip). Please |
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03-09-2010, 01:58 PM
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yes your right George up to down and down to up. backwards as usual.
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03-09-2010, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the Dirty Jerz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
yes your right George up to down and down to up. backwards as usual.
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You had me thinking i had it backwards and questioning how i build plugs for a good 5 minutes.  |
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03-09-2010, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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HA IT WORKED 
I had to sit down and think about that for a minute too Bill. I put the line ties inside out on your last batch 
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Originally Posted by wrikerjr
You had me thinking i had it backwards and questioning how i build plugs for a good 5 minutes. |
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03-09-2010, 04:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: L.I.NY
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Thanks George good detail on distance between bottom lip and line tie.
I saw the article [dave anderson] the plug was pretty much spot on except for 2nd belly hook.?? That hook probably is too big a detail to just omit.
If the size ,weight and lip placement were all the same what would the affect be by omitting 2nd hook? - not as deep ,or not as stable.
I had a BM to compare to - had 2 belly hooks and same basic size.
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03-09-2010, 04:17 PM
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Location: New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
yes your right George up to down and down to up. backwards as usual.
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OK I feel better, now go fix your website |
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03-09-2010, 06:24 PM
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Benny are you going this weekend?
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03-09-2010, 07:13 PM
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Location: New Jersey
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You talking about Asbury ?
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03-10-2010, 05:36 AM
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Shore Catch on Saturday
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03-10-2010, 07:20 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Jersey
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Not in the budget this year, great show though I've been twice. I will admit, I'm not much of a seminar guy when it comes to fishing. Will you be there?
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03-10-2010, 08:03 AM
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yep I'm going down Friday for some other stuff.
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