This is a big f***ing deal

[PaulS]

WASHINGTON (June 26) - The Washington Post on Friday defended its decision to print an obscenity uttered by Vice President #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney during a confrontation in the Senate this week.

In a story published Friday, the Post quoted Cheney as saying "F--- yourself" to Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. The Post printed the entire four-letter curse, minus the dashes, something the paper says it hasn't done since publishing Kenneth Starr's report on the Clinton-Lewinsky affair in 1998.

In a story posted on its Web site, Post executive editor Leonard Downie Jr. said, "When the vice president of the United States says it to a senator in the way in which he said it on the Senate floor, readers need to judge for themselves what the word is because we don't play games at The Washington Post and use dashes."

A few dozen readers had complained about the curse, the paper said.

The Post's story on Friday also made mention of a 2000 incident in which then-presidential candidate George W. Bush made an off-mike comment about a New York Times reporter, calling him a "major league expletive." The Post did not print the expletive Friday. Downie said the Post printed the word in its 2000 story and he saw no reason to repeat it.

According to Senate aides, Cheney confronted Leahy about the senator's criticism of military contracts awarded to Cheney's former company, Halliburton. Leahy responded by criticizing the White House for standing by its allies who accused Democrats of being anti-Catholic in opposing one of Bush's judicial nominees. Cheney then responded with the F-word.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

WASHINGTON (June 26) - The Washington Post on Friday defended its decision to print an obscenity uttered by Vice President #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney during a confrontation in the Senate this week.

In a story published Friday, the Post quoted Cheney as saying "F--- yourself" to Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. The Post printed the entire four-letter curse, minus the dashes, something the paper says it hasn't done since publishing Kenneth Starr's report on the Clinton-Lewinsky affair in 1998.

In a story posted on its Web site, Post executive editor Leonard Downie Jr. said, "When the vice president of the United States says it to a senator in the way in which he said it on the Senate floor, readers need to judge for themselves what the word is because we don't play games at The Washington Post and use dashes."

A few dozen readers had complained about the curse, the paper said.

The Post's story on Friday also made mention of a 2000 incident in which then-presidential candidate George W. Bush made an off-mike comment about a New York Times reporter, calling him a "major league expletive." The Post did not print the expletive Friday. Downie said the Post printed the word in its 2000 story and he saw no reason to repeat it.

According to Senate aides, Cheney confronted Leahy about the senator's criticism of military contracts awarded to Cheney's former company, Halliburton. Leahy responded by criticizing the White House for standing by its allies who accused Democrats of being anti-Catholic in opposing one of Bush's judicial nominees. Cheney then responded with the F-word.

Good point, Cheney got his share of criticism, and now Biden is getting his.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Good point, Cheney got his share of criticism, and now Biden is getting his.

But I believe that Cheney said it on the floor and Biden's was a wisper that was suppose to be only for 1 person to hear.

Frankly, neither are appropriate.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But I believe that Cheney said it on the floor and Biden's was a wisper that was suppose to be only for 1 person to hear.

Frankly, neither are appropriate.

I was thinking about Cheney too. I quess we can just continue with the " hey, Bush and Cheney did it too"
Lets not forget Clinton who made a BJ exceptable for our teens and now our kids can say the eff word. What great mentors our leaders are.

I believe "F you" to the American people has been acted out enough by Pelosi and crew.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

I was thinking about Cheney too. I quess we can just continue with the " hey, Bush and Cheney did it too"
Lets not forget Clinton who made a BJ exceptable for our teens and now our kids can say the eff word. What great mentors our leaders are.

If your kids think swearing is acceptable, it's no one else's fault but your own. People shouldn't allow the village to raise their kids.

Politicians are anything but mentors for children - lying, greed, wastefulness and selfishness are rampant in all areas of politics. Parents should be the mentors and role models for the upcoming youth, not someone that's out for their own personal gain.

[PRBuzz]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

If your kids think swearing is acceptable, it's no one else's fault but your own. People shouldn't allow the village to raise their kids.

Has anyone seen the new series on SyFi: Caprica? They are using "frack/fracken/etc for the f-word variants so don't be surprised if in general conversation this doesn't become commonplace. Although, F*** is all too common in everyday conversation.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

If your kids think swearing is acceptable, it's no one else's fault but your own. People shouldn't allow the village to raise their kids.

Politicians are anything but mentors for children - lying, greed, wastefulness and selfishness are rampant in all areas of politics. Parents should be the mentors and role models for the upcoming youth, not someone that's out for their own personal gain.

If you think teaching your kid not to swear when every jock and most political figures cuss up a storm is possible, I would like to know your methods. Every kid swears, sorry to break it to you.
You have to learn to shut it off..... In front of Grandparents, bosses and when signing the most important bill ever introduced.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

If you think teaching your kid not to swear when every jock and most political figures cuss up a storm is possible, I would like to know your methods. Every kid swears, sorry to break it to you.

Ah yes. The proverbial "It's their fault, not mine." Did you know that video games are to blame for Columbine too?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

I was thinking about Cheney too. I quess we can just continue with the " hey, Bush and Cheney did it too"
Lets not forget Clinton who made a BJ exceptable for our teens and now our kids can say the eff word. What great mentors our leaders are.

I believe "F you" to the American people has been acted out enough by Pelosi and crew.

But did you post in any threads when Cheney did it (I believe on the floor??) or do you have a double standard?

Let's see - in this post alone you called the VP a complete idiot and said that Pelosi and crew gave the "Fyou to the American People". Seems like you wouldn't be such a great mentor.