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03-26-2010, 04:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Well I think you might be better off not registering everyone. By increasing the number of fishermen (many of whom may never actually fish) these numbers will be used to estimate how many fish are killed. If you put down everyone in your immediate family as a "just in case" and because it is free...you are basically providing bad info which will be used to make regulations, reducing the rec take because of all these fishermen. The assumptions are steep. I have been at fluke meetings...some assume we recs fish 7 days a week taking our limit each day.
I think you need to attache $$$ to each lic to get real number of fishermen. If they charged you 80 bucks per fisherman you are not going to register those who might not fish. You will wait till the last minute.
My bet is the number of fishermen is reduced next year.
Also, I bet you get nasty emails from the government next season if you registered this year and declined next year when the fees kick in. The fed info will be shared with the states. This is not a well thought out plan. Has a "Big Brother" feel to it. I don't think it will do enough for the fish.
And as for where the money goes...what major projects have they done with the 10% fishing tax now on all tackle sold? How have I benifited from the tax?
There will be no more enforcent than what we have now...in fact from what I have seen numbers of enforecement persons at least in my neck of the woods is being reduced. Cops we have plenty but on the water enforcement is another story.
Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 03-26-2010 at 05:01 PM..
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03-26-2010, 04:26 PM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
Posts: 6,414
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Well I think you might be better off not registering everyone. By increasing the number of fishermen (many of whom may never actually fish) these numbers will be used to estimate how many fish are killed. If you put down everyone in your immediate family as a "just in case" and because it is free...you are basically providing bad info upon witch will be used to make regulations.
I think you need to attache $$$ to each lic to get real number of fishermen. If they charged you 80 bucks per fisherman you are not going to register those who might not fish. You will wait till the last minute.
My bet is the number of fishermen is reduced next year.
Also, I bet you get nasty emails from the government next season if you registered this year and declined next year. The fed info will be shared with the states. This is not a well thought out plan.
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Until "they" figure out enforcement strategy...I'll take the cautious approach! Unless they are going to watch me for an hour and see who does/doesn't touch a pole, I'm covering anybody that sets foot on my boat.
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 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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03-26-2010, 05:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Honeslty, what do you think they will do next season if you didn't sign up for the "free" permit. Little to nothing. In fact most (normal) people have never even heard of the salt water fishing lic.
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03-26-2010, 05:20 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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done
i'll buy haddock tho
and C&R stripers
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03-27-2010, 04:35 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Ross, I did it as much as it galled me to do it. It was either the Feds or the State and, in Rhode Island, the State is even more dishonest than the Feds.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-27-2010, 09:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 101
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Taxation with eroneous representation
.........to repeat....  Taxation with eroneous representation.....is the word on the street(waters)......if/when license money ends up in the general accounts-not fisheries-it will be another sad day in America.. 
Last edited by trapperpierre; 03-27-2010 at 09:14 AM..
Reason: word
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03-27-2010, 09:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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I've been told the coast guard wants nothing and will have nothing to do with enforcing this.
I got my lic (charter boat) a while ago.
No where on the lic does it say individual or vessel for hire/charter.
Should I decide to go out for fun with friends for the day, I and everyone on my my boat needs an individual lic.
Same if I decided to go to the shore to fish !
Last edited by Raider Ronnie; 03-27-2010 at 12:23 PM..
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LETS GO BRANDON
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03-27-2010, 10:27 AM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trapperpierre
.........to repeat....  Taxation with eroneous representation.....is the word on the street(waters)......if/when license money ends up in the general accounts-not fisheries-it will be another sad day in America.. 
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it's the american way screw me again, I promise I won't say anything
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