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04-08-2010, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
Perhaps this is a "jobless" recovery.
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I wouldn't worry about it..the Kenyan Kommunist told us the he was going to focus like a laser on jobs....wait...maybe that was meant to say he'd be destroying jobs with a laser death ray or something
WIKIPEDIA .....A "jobless recovery" or jobless growth is a phrase used by leftist economists, especially in the United States, to describe the recovery from a recession, where "recovery" is defined as growth in gross domestic product (GDP), which does not produce strong growth in employment, specifically a rapid drop in the unemployment rate to the level it was prior to recession. The first documented use of the term was in the New York Times in the 1930s.[1]not a coincidence
A jobless recovery is usually seen as a bad thing in a capitalist industrialized society. This is primarily because in such a society most people need jobs to earn the money they need to purchase goods and services from the marketplace. Also, secondarily, doing something useful and productive is usually connected to a healthy individual's self-esteem and his or her positive relationships to the larger community. An alternative (Progressive liberal democrat) view is that a jobless recovery could be a step towards a post-scarcity society full of abundance for all if you are a communist moron-- as a new stage of cultural development with increased leisure and volunteerism. in other words, lazy ass government dependents and democrat voters That alternative view represents a trend that many technologists, futurists, and heterodox economists have predicted dreamed of and fantasized about in their deranged leftist cult meetings for decades.
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04-08-2010, 02:44 PM
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Now that funny
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04-09-2010, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I wouldn't worry about it..the Kenyan Kommunist told us the he was going to focus like a laser on jobs....wait...maybe that was meant to say he'd be destroying jobs with a laser death ray or something
WIKIPEDIA .....A "jobless recovery" or jobless growth is a phrase used by leftist economists, especially in the United States, to describe the recovery from a recession, where "recovery" is defined as growth in gross domestic product (GDP), which does not produce strong growth in employment, specifically a rapid drop in the unemployment rate to the level it was prior to recession. The first documented use of the term was in the New York Times in the 1930s.[1]not a coincidence
A jobless recovery is usually seen as a bad thing in a capitalist industrialized society. This is primarily because in such a society most people need jobs to earn the money they need to purchase goods and services from the marketplace. Also, secondarily, doing something useful and productive is usually connected to a healthy individual's self-esteem and his or her positive relationships to the larger community. An alternative (Progressive liberal democrat) view is that a jobless recovery could be a step towards a post-scarcity society full of abundance for all if you are a communist moron-- as a new stage of cultural development with increased leisure and volunteerism. in other words, lazy ass government dependents and democrat voters That alternative view represents a trend that many technologists, futurists, and heterodox economists have predicted dreamed of and fantasized about in their deranged leftist cult meetings for decades.
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Comrade, you left the "this article needs additional citations for verification" notice out of your arts and craft project.
But I get it; we took the happy ending of the 1990's for granted. And for 10 years, something spoiled in our brand of capitalism. But we held our noses. Our - not left or right - state of economic affairs shows that even a sophisticated country with studied leadership can stumble badly. This is essentially what occurred in Japan long before we got wind of the stench of our own rotting economic core. The current growth is just simply too slow to reduce unemployment. To borrow from Paul Krugman, we may be in the midst of a "growth recession."
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04-09-2010, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
Comrade, you left the "this article needs additional citations for verification" notice out of your arts and craft project.
But I get it; we took the happy ending of the 1990's for granted. the "happy ending" of the 1990's was also a bubble if you recall, And for 10 years, something spoiled in our brand of capitalism.yes and that was government/congress (maybe you missed Greenspan's testimony the other day) inserting it fingers into the banking system and forcing banks to make loans that should never have been made and the culture that it created which began long before the 10 years that you refer to But we held our noses. some did Our - not left or right - state of economic affairs your opinion shows that even a sophisticated country with studied leadership if you voted for Obama, studied leadership??? can stumble badly. This is essentially what occurred in Japan no, no, no...Japan's "lost decade" resulted from massive government spending to try to fuel their economy, we are only just entering that phase long before we got wind of the stench of our own rotting economic core. The current growth is just simply too intentionally slow to reduce unemployment. To borrow from Paul Krugman, we may be in the midst of a "growth recession." we are in the midst of " the remaking of America"
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Comrade...you paint a picture of what you think has and is happening but it has no basis in fact....this economy is in ruins under the weight of massive debt that has and continues to be piled on in the form of liberal social programs, entitlements, benefits and promises....from RI -9.5 BILLION in unfunded obligations to public sector employees...to California 550 BILLION (that's half a TRILLION) in unfunded obligations to same and everywhere in between....now healthcare who's actual cost has been tinkerd and lied about to make it palatable to the sleazy politicians who voted for it...next phase is to find new ways to suck the life out of every American who works and participates in this failing economy....the folks running the country currently are vampires and they have their teeth in our necks, there can't be growth with massive debt ever increasing, rising taxation and new regulation....and we're told to expect high unemployment for a long...long time....but keep rooting along with the heterodox economists and futurists that the "jobless recovery" will bring Utopia and leisure and volunteerism and a Post-Scarcity Economy
what you need to decide is whether you prefer to be responsible for your own success in a free market economy or...whether you want to make the government responsible for guaranteeing your "happy ending"
oh, almost forgot...the Bush tax cuts are set to expire as well...that should help spur job slow growth
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04-09-2010, 06:45 AM
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Most service industry related jobs are laying off this time of year. IT service related industry slows down EVERY year right about now and cuts its fat.
One example is ski resorts. How many do we have in this country?
I know reality is less fun than saying its Obama's fault, but think people.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-09-2010, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid
Most service industry related jobs are laying off this time of year. IT service related industry slows down EVERY year right about now and cuts its fat.
One example is ski resorts. How many do we have in this country?
I know reality is less fun than saying its Obama's fault, but think people.
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well, that explains it...ski resorts are responsible....  unbelieveable
lawn care should be picking up...how many lawns do we have in this country??? wouldn't that off set the ski resort layoffs 
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04-09-2010, 10:43 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by scottw
well, that explains it...ski resorts are responsible....  unbelieveable
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Sunday River in Maine alone employs 400-500 people during the season, they lay off close to 80% of that.
Thats ONE resort, and not even remotely the scale of west coast mountains.
Lets also add in all the seasonal restaraunt staff, seasonal shop staff, winter guides for various outdoor sports, etc. etc. etc. that are done for the season and not getting into their next jobs (outdoor guides, summer season campers/forestry crews/etc.) for another month or so.
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lawn care should be picking up...how many lawns do we have in this country??? wouldn't that off set the ski resort layoffs
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Landscraping STARTS out here (hamptons) the end of march and doesn't get going for another MONTH.
But, carry on being dumb, someone has to do it.
Here's an even more difficult concept for you. Seasonal jobs don't hire until they NEED people. I know, shocking.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-09-2010, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by likwid
Sunday River in Maine alone employs 400-500 people during the season, they lay off close to 80% of that.
Thats ONE resort, and not even remotely the scale of west coast mountains.
Lets also add in all the seasonal restaraunt staff, seasonal shop staff, winter guides for various outdoor sports, etc. etc. etc. that are done for the season and not getting into their next jobs (outdoor guides, summer season campers/forestry crews/etc.) for another month or so.
Landscraping STARTS out here (hamptons) the end of march and doesn't get going for another MONTH.
But, carry on being dumb, someone has to do it.
Here's an even more difficult concept for you. Seasonal jobs don't hire until they NEED people. I know, shocking.
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clearly you have a firm grasp on the explanation for the reasons for the unemployment numbers.....yikes
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04-09-2010, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
Most service industry related jobs are laying off this time of year. IT service related industry slows down EVERY year right about now and cuts its fat.
One example is ski resorts. How many do we have in this country?
I know reality is less fun than saying its Obama's fault, but think people.
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When ski resorts, etc... lay off, other seasonal industries are hiring. Think about the hotels, seasonal restaurants and landscaping companies that increase their staffing levels in the spring.
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