Mansfield politics

[buckman]

A big part of the problem is the forced "low income" apartments we had to have per state mandate. The project on West Street alone is killing us. These people add nothing to the tax base and have alot of children. 28% of our population is in school.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by buckman

A big part of the problem is the forced "low income" apartments we had to have per state mandate. The project on West Street alone is killing us. These people add nothing to the tax base and have alot of children. 28% of our population is in school.

We had to take those to continue to get state matching funding for what portions of our budget?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by buckman

These people add nothing to the tax base and have alot of children. 28% of our population is in school.

Now if they would just relax the Mortgage requirements for these people so they could buy a house.....Oh, Wait...that didn't work very well before either.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Now if they would just relax the Mortgage requirements for these people so they could buy a house.....Oh, Wait...that didn't work very well before either.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

A big part of the problem is the forced "low income" apartments we had to have per state mandate. The project on West Street alone is killing us. These people add nothing to the tax base and have alot of children. 28% of our population is in school.

Everyone forgets the strange coincidence of the increased drug problems and crime after the Mansfield Depot was built. Lots of trash came into town with that place.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Everyone forgets the strange coincidence of the increased drug problems and crime after the Mansfield Depot was built. Lots of trash came into town with that place.

Lots of fights I remember that, my wife has experienced overflow from Fridays inside LLBEAN!!

[striperman36]

mansfield selectman transfer 890K from various funds to the school budget.

Mansfield will transfer funds to save school sports - The Boston Globe

okay, now the selectman will put the override on the table? Magic money.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by striperman36

mansfield selectman transfer 890K from various funds to the school budget.

Mansfield will transfer funds to save school sports - The Boston Globe

okay, now the selectman will put the override on the table? Magic money.

"In return, the committee will remove a property tax override vote from next month’s Town Meeting agenda."

Like I've been saying and as Miller was quoted, this is only a band-aid. The town keeps putting these band-aids on problems, yet it'll be an issue again next year - or the areas where they "transferred" funds from will be at contention next year. They've basically decided that instead of dealing with the PR backlash, they'll take funds away from areas that won't cause as much long-lasting, bad publicity for them come election time.

Hope we don't get too much snow next year or there will be a whole lot of snow days for the kids.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

"In return, the committee will remove a property tax override vote from next month’s Town Meeting agenda."

Like I've been saying and as Miller was quoted, this is only a band-aid. The town keeps putting these band-aids on problems, yet it'll be an issue again next year - or the areas where they "transferred" funds from will be at contention next year. They've basically decided that instead of dealing with the PR backlash, they'll take funds away from areas that won't cause as much long-lasting, bad publicity for them come election time.

Hope we don't get too much snow next year or there will be a whole lot of snow days for the kids.

What they are looking for is about 1.5 million in somewhat painless concessions from the teachers union and town employees. either that or a lot of them will lose their jobs. Kind of a no-brainer.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

What they are looking for is about 1.5 million in somewhat painless concessions from the teachers union and town employees. either that or a lot of them will lose their jobs. Kind of a no-brainer.

Doubling their health insurance contribution and taking a one year freeze on wages is far from painless.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Everyone forgets the strange coincidence of the increased drug problems and crime after the Mansfield Depot was built. Lots of trash came into town with that place.

Bwaaaah.
You could buy craploads of drugs downtown long before the depot was even thought of.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

Bwaaaah.
You could buy craploads of drugs downtown long before the depot was even thought of.

I'm sure you're right. The difference was the people supplying the drugs. A whole different "culture" came into town with the Depot. And there is no denying the correlation of the Depot and increased crime along with residual trash that came into the schools.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I'm sure you're right. The difference was the people supplying the drugs. A whole different "culture" came into town with the Depot. And there is no denying the correlation of the Depot and increased crime along with residual trash that came into the schools.

When you say the Depot you mean the Section 8 apt complex

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I'm sure you're right. The difference was the people supplying the drugs. A whole different "culture" came into town with the Depot. And there is no denying the correlation of the Depot and increased crime along with residual trash that came into the schools.

So tell me, which 'culture' is this?
Trash is trash man, no matter what 'culture' its from. Get over blaming one 'culture' over another.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

So tell me, which 'culture' is this?
Trash is trash man, no matter what 'culture' its from. Get over blaming one 'culture' over another.

It's not a racial thing, if you're implying that. A bit of that 'big city' attitude came to town along with the completion of those projects - increased crime, increased drugs.

Open up the Mansfield News to the police blotter and half the reports are from that area (if you were to discount events at the Comcast Center). I'd love to see a heat map with a distribution of crime in the town.

I do not intend to make this a racial issue all. As you said, trash is trash.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

It's not a racial thing, if you're implying that. A bit of that 'big city' attitude came to town along with the completion of those projects - increased crime, increased drugs.

You mean the same attitude that was there 15 years ago from the wannabes? Same people, same stupid attitude, same run like hell when they realize you don't back down.

Open up the Mansfield News to the police blotter and half the reports are from that area (if you were to discount events at the Comcast Center). I'd love to see a heat map with a distribution of crime in the town.

I do not intend to make this a racial issue all. As you said, trash is trash.

And the other half are where? The middle of town where they've always been.

Open up the Norton paper. Where's all the drug busts? The Glen. Been that way for 20+ years. Norton just learned to keep the undesirables over on the OTHER side of town.