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Conservation Issues and Notices A new location to post Conservation Issues and Notices in place or or in addition to discussions on the Main Stripertalk Forum |
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04-28-2010, 06:05 PM
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It's about friggin time.
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04-28-2010, 07:20 PM
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Renewable, clean...yes, Cheapest form of power, not even close.
150 years of coal still available in the US. That is the cheapest way to go. Burn it clean and scrub it.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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04-29-2010, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamie
Renewable, clean...yes, Cheapest form of power, not even close.
150 years of coal still available in the US. That is the cheapest way to go. Burn it clean and scrub it.
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At current prices of fuel and electricity, reports state that the price of electricity will stay relatively the same yet the wind farm should provide most, if not all of the energy needs for the Cape.
Unless I've misunderstood some of the reports, the price per kW/hr will be negotiated before construction can take place. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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04-29-2010, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
At current prices of fuel and electricity, reports state that the price of electricity will stay relatively the same yet the wind farm should provide most, if not all of the energy needs for the Cape.
Unless I've misunderstood some of the reports, the price per kW/hr will be negotiated before construction can take place. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I read today that they're hoping for 3/4ths of the Cape's electricity to come from the wind farm. That's probably a bit of a stretch, but it's much better than what they get in other areas with the turbines. I'm more interested in hearing how much the cost for delivery is going to be. If they can keep the delivery cost down and lower the cost per kw, I say build more of em'.
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04-29-2010, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
I read today that they're hoping for 3/4ths of the Cape's electricity to come from the wind farm. That's probably a bit of a stretch, but it's much better than what they get in other areas with the turbines. I'm more interested in hearing how much the cost for delivery is going to be. If they can keep the delivery cost down and lower the cost per kw, I say build more of em'.
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The world is eventually going to run out of fossil fuels. Many people have a mindset of "we don't need it now, so let's not worry about it." I agree with you, if delivery costs can be kept low enough, build as many of those puppies as possible. I'm sure your number of 3/4ths is accurate (from a "reported to the public" sense, we'll see how it actually pans out), I couldn't find the article I read a few days ago.
Unfortunately for the Kennedy's and the people with shore access on the southern Cape, that area is perfect for this application - offshore, consistent winds, relatively shallow waters.
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04-29-2010, 02:23 PM
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I'm all for the wind turbines, just think using existing power plants using a US source like gas and coal is cheaper. The initial cost of the project for the amount of electricity produced is big. I think I read each turbine only produces less than 3 MW.
If anyone thinks the price of juice is going down on the cape you have to be kidding.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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05-01-2010, 07:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
At current prices of fuel and electricity, reports state that the price of electricity will stay relatively the same yet the wind farm should provide most, if not all of the energy needs for the Cape.
Unless I've misunderstood some of the reports, the price per kW/hr will be negotiated before construction can take place. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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All the reports I have read stated 30 % plus more in costs. In the neighborhood of $.27 per killowatts hour. I think we are in the low to mid teens right now on cost per killowatt hour.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
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12-20-2010, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Swimmer
All the reports I have read stated 30 % plus more in costs. In the neighborhood of $.27 per killowatts hour. I think we are in the low to mid teens right now on cost per killowatt hour.
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Need to look close at your electric bill, at the energy cost not the total cost. On my present bill the electric energy itself cost is 7.9 cents per KW. Another 8.9 cents per KW for delivery and taxes. Total cost is 16.8 cents per KW at the house.
The Seabrook Nuclear plant sells power to the grid for about 4 to 5 cents a KW. Coal plants in the mid west sell power for 3 cents to the grid. So if Cape wind is getting 18.7 cents per KW that is about 4 times what other power cost. The Northeast already has the most expensive electricity in the US, out in the mid west they pay about 9 cents a KW at their house.
Wind is fine but America needs large scale 24 hour a day power plants. In another 20 years most of the present generation nuclear plants will be shutting down. I don't see 100 new nuclear units being built due to the cost. We will have no choice but to build large scale coal plants because we won't have the money to build anything else. We will need natural gas for other purposes.
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