bomber question

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by luds

On a bomber they're more of any enemy.

Why is that?
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[luds]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Why is that?
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Like stripermainiac pointed out there are probably times like moving water that having heavy hooks will help but in general putting on 6x hooks will dramatically alter the action of a bomber. I should clarify that my experience is mostly with a-salts and 17a's. On the a-salts i fish two 4x 1/o's and on the 17a's i fish two 4x 3/o's. I believe the 17a's are packaged by bomber now with 4x 4/o's but to me those are too heavy for the plug to swim right in calm water which is where I use bombers. When there is a good surf I stick to red fins, f-90's, and large helcats. If you switch 6x on either bomber I mentioned you lose the wiggle at a very slow retrieve and if you pick up the retrieve they start to dive which personally I don't like. IMO there are too many other good finnish style choices that do that. Mr. Wiggly and loaded redfins being too good examples. Never been a fan of removing the middle hook on a 16a putting a 2/o on the front hook and a 1/o on the back either. I guess a 6x 1/o on the front would work here but again it's just not my thing.

Now I'm curious why you like 6x hooks on yours because I'm sure there is a valid reason that I may need to adopt into my way of thinking.

[DZ]

Originally Posted by luds

Like stripermainiac pointed out there are probably times like moving water that having heavy hooks will help but in general putting on 6x hooks will dramatically alter the action of a bomber. I should clarify that my experience is mostly with a-salts and 17a's. On the a-salts i fish two 4x 1/o's and on the 17a's i fish two 4x 3/o's. I believe the 17a's are packaged by bomber now with 4x 4/o's but to me those are too heavy for the plug to swim right in calm water which is where I use bombers. When there is a good surf I stick to red fins, f-90's, and large helcats. If you switch 6x on either bomber I mentioned you lose the wiggle at a very slow retrieve and if you pick up the retrieve they start to dive which personally I don't like. IMO there are too many other good finnish style choices that do that. Mr. Wiggly and loaded redfins being too good examples. Never been a fan of removing the middle hook on a 16a putting a 2/o on the front hook and a 1/o on the back either. I guess a 6x 1/o on the front would work here but again it's just not my thing.

All good points Luds - tactical thinking at work!


DZ

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by luds

Now I'm curious why you like 6x hooks on yours because I'm sure there is a valid reason that I may need to adopt into my way of thinking.

I fish them off of rocky ledges and jetties- never off of shallow areas, so I can get away with it I guess.. and I also fish them kind of herky jerky with lots of twitches. I dont bring it in with a steady retrieve. Also, i pause it a lot, which allows it to float up a bit... I dont use these a lot, but I like to have one or 2 in my bag when I need a small offering.

[quick decision]

With the small macs in the canal I thought it was a good choice. It was killer on small scoolies at at the change of the tide Monday evening. I was working it on the ledge in slow to increaing to moderate current. A slow and steady retrieve seemed to work best.

[Clogston29]

based on your original question, i'd say go with a #2 or #1 vmc 4x (whichever looks the closest to the hooks that come with the plug). i'm assuming that you using about a 4-5" bomber. i use #1 vmc 4x trebles on small redfins and they produce well. downsizing your leader will help alot in getting small plugs like that to swim. 20 lb test or less is best. Also, keeping the split ring on the nose of the plug (I always remove it) or using a loop knot will help a bit.

6x trebles have applications, but light weight plastic swimmers really aren't one IMO.

[tlapinski]

6" bombers (regular and A-salt) I use 6x 1/0 VMC's. On the regular 6" ones I use one belly hook and one tail. All my 7" bombers/rebels/redfins/etc... get 6x 3/0 belly hooks and either 6x 1/0 or 6x 2/0 tail hooks depending on exaclty what I want to do with them and where they are being fished. This hook arrangement worked fine on this little girl from Monday night...