Pogies Being Decimated

[Clammer]

its not funny but its true .................................................. ..........................most of the people on the internet sites / bitch , & moan & groan about the pogie boats / pogie boats / pogie boats .
BUT in the off season . there are meetings held by DEM ..
they are all open meetings / some are to hash [stuff] around / some are the Marine fisheries counsel & others I don,t know whose actually running them ;;but they are ALL open meetings .
that,s the places you all should be doing the bitchin ;
There were changes made to the regulations to the commercial pogie fisheries . most relate to the size gear , indenifing & certifing the nets by the state . // also raising the level pof pogies in the bay until they reach 2 million pounds / otherwise this s $%^&* would have started earlier / also its now law that the DEM <> is suppose to watch them & the amout of pogies in the bay / & fishing would cease when the level went down to 1.5 million ## We have to stay on the states ass ...... ya see stuff [ make the call over & over .....you can bet you life / if they started getting 100,s of calls a day .... not just DEM ... but your rep/ counselmen / senator/ [governor] So we did make some progress .But it going to take numbers that will make the difference ........ that ,s what shakes up the political side of things ;;
You know who spends the most money & makes the most money ,, when the pogies are in ;;
That,s right >>>>>>>>>> the REC angler & the small businesses that make or break off sales related to fishing with pogies ....

Guess WTF ........ @ 99% of the meetings ....... there are no straight [rec] only ; anglers @ any of the meetings . & if there is . they don,t say . #^&#^&#^&#^& S$%^&..

So to me . This same talk . every fu%^&*( year is getting real tired .

Its like .. Do you vote ??? F $%^&*( no .. it doesn,t matter >>>>>>>> then my reply is . then STFU you have no right to bitch ;

If 20% put your moaning & bitching into getting off your asses in the off season & bitchin @ the meetings . These boats wouldn,t be here today

have a good day

[Adam_777]

So what your saying is we need to round up all of the fisherman in the off season and hit DEM meetings.We really should get serious here and start another thread.Ask for all members of this site to give up a few hours of the off season to try and make a difference.We'll need a group leader to keep us all informed of when and where the meetings are.We will also need some facts about neighboring states laws and the effect on the bay and the local economy.Wouldn't want to go in with no information.I for one would sign up to participate in this.I would like to think that from this site alone we could drum up a good size crowd and add a few more members.If we win and get the boats the eff out of the bay it would be a great accomplishment and we would all benefit from it.So who wants to run the show ? Who wants to get information and put it up here so we can print it and take it with us for ammo ?We could also start a petition. I am more than willing to give this a shot.A little information goes a long way.Who else would like to get involved ?

BTW Clammer thanks for the information.Even if it's in clam I understand.I still owe you a few bucks for the S-B sticker.Got anymore ?

Originally Posted by Clammer

its not funny but its true .................................................. ..........................most of the people on the internet sites / bitch , & moan & groan about the pogie boats / pogie boats / pogie boats .
BUT in the off season . there are meetings held by DEM ..
they are all open meetings / some are to hash [stuff] around / some are the Marine fisheries counsel & others I don,t know whose actually running them ;;but they are ALL open meetings .
that,s the places you all should be doing the bitchin ;
There were changes made to the regulations to the commercial pogie fisheries . most relate to the size gear , indenifing & certifing the nets by the state . // also raising the level pof pogies in the bay until they reach 2 million pounds / otherwise this s $%^&* would have started earlier / also its now law that the DEM <> is suppose to watch them & the amout of pogies in the bay / & fishing would cease when the level went down to 1.5 million ## We have to stay on the states ass ...... ya see stuff [ make the call over & over .....you can bet you life / if they started getting 100,s of calls a day .... not just DEM ... but your rep/ counselmen / senator/ [governor] So we did make some progress .But it going to take numbers that will make the difference ........ that ,s what shakes up the political side of things ;;
You know who spends the most money & makes the most money ,, when the pogies are in ;;
That,s right >>>>>>>>>> the REC angler & the small businesses that make or break off sales related to fishing with pogies ....

Guess WTF ........ @ 99% of the meetings ....... there are no straight [rec] only ; anglers @ any of the meetings . & if there is . they don,t say . #^&#^&#^&#^& S$%^&..

So to me . This same talk . every fu%^&*( year is getting real tired .

Its like .. Do you vote ??? F $%^&*( no .. it doesn,t matter >>>>>>>> then my reply is . then STFU you have no right to bitch ;

If 20% put your moaning & bitching into getting off your asses in the off season & bitchin @ the meetings . These boats wouldn,t be here today

have a good day

[afterhours]

i'm with you adam...

[Clammer]

There are a few guys on this site that can post when & where meetings are being held .
they arn,t always in the same place .

SB stickers ....... Ya all have been pounding the Boss Man for 2 years ........ I don,t have the contact or the info on where he had them made .

I,ll do all the mailing & stuff but someone has to light a fire & get a rerun of them . I remember that during the winter there was a thread on a new design /logo .But as has been the case NADA was done ;;

[Adam_777]

So your saying you want to be the guy who informs the group of when and where the meetings will be ? All you'll have to do is post a thread with the info and we'll see if we can get the boss to sticky it.Once we get a roster of who would participate we can make sure everyone see's the post through PM's,E-mail or phone.

So we need to hear from the boss about stickers.I'd be willing to donate some $$ into a sticker fund as long as I get one or two.

Originally Posted by Clammer

There are a few guys on this site that can post when & where meetings are being held .
they arn,t always in the same place .

SB stickers ....... Ya all have been pounding the Boss Man for 2 years ........ I don,t have the contact or the info on where he had them made .

I,ll do all the mailing & stuff but someone has to light a fire & get a rerun of them . I remember that during the winter there was a thread on a new design /logo .But as has been the case NADA was done ;;

[Adam_777]

Cut me a little slack.I'm trying to rattle some chains.Maybe form a group.I also responded on the other site.Same guy.

Originally Posted by Adam_777

So what your saying is we need to round up all of the fisherman in the off season and hit DEM meetings.We really should get serious here and start another thread.Ask for all members of this site to give up a few hours of the off season to try and make a difference.We'll need a group leader to keep us all informed of when and where the meetings are.We will also need some facts about neighboring states laws and the effect on the bay and the local economy.Wouldn't want to go in with no information.I for one would sign up to participate in this.I would like to think that from this site alone we could drum up a good size crowd and add a few more members.If we win and get the boats the eff out of the bay it would be a great accomplishment and we would all benefit from it.So who wants to run the show ? Who wants to get information and put it up here so we can print it and take it with us for ammo ?We could also start a petition. I am more than willing to give this a shot.A little information goes a long way.Who else would like to get involved ?

BTW Clammer thanks for the information.Even if it's in clam I understand.I still owe you a few bucks for the S-B sticker.Got anymore ?

[Frankiesurf]

Originally Posted by Clammer

Guess WTF ........ @ 99% of the meetings ....... there are no straight [rec] only ; anglers @ any of the meetings . & if there is . they don,t say . #^&#^&#^&#^& S$%^&..

So to me . This same talk . every fu%^&*( year is getting real tired .

Its like .. Do you vote ??? F $%^&*( no .. it doesn,t matter >>>>>>>> then my reply is . then STFU you have no right to bitch ;

If 20% put your moaning & bitching into getting off your asses in the off season & bitchin @ the meetings . These boats wouldn,t be here today

You are 100% correct. Here in NY it is the Marine Resource Advisory Council. They hold monthly meetings and are the DEC's eyes and ears on regulations.

I won't lie saying the meetings are not boring as hell because some are. Some are interesting though and there is a lot to be learned by going to these things.

I make them when I can, especially if something important is coming up, but they have them at 2 pm on Tuesdays. Not very job friendly, unless you are a comm guy. These meetings are filled with them and sometimes I am the only rec in the house. Not cool at all.

Each meeting, and I am sure it is the same with your DEM meetings, has a public comment period. They are very important and the board can sometimes base their decision due to these comments.

Get to these meetings, get up and say something and you will be doing your part to fix what is broken.

[trapperpierre]

..,,Clamma,,,,,,,,,pine box with bas-relief carved pogies being chased by open mouth corker striper.....with a pen/ink scene of a seine boat in the far distance down by the Homestead..............taking orders now

[Clammer]

DENIS:

I went the next day .flares accomplished // looked all over wacky world for something to carry/protect my log book from the weather / water ;
Havn,t found anything yet ;

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Clammer

its not funny but its true .................................................. ..........................most of the people on the internet sites / bitch , & moan & groan about the pogie boats / pogie boats / pogie boats .
BUT in the off season . there are meetings held by DEM ..
they are all open meetings / some are to hash [stuff] around / some are the Marine fisheries counsel & others I don,t know whose actually running them ;;but they are ALL open meetings .
that,s the places you all should be doing the bitchin ;
There were changes made to the regulations to the commercial pogie fisheries . most relate to the size gear , indenifing & certifing the nets by the state . // also raising the level pof pogies in the bay until they reach 2 million pounds / otherwise this s $%^&* would have started earlier / also its now law that the DEM <> is suppose to watch them & the amout of pogies in the bay / & fishing would cease when the level went down to 1.5 million ## We have to stay on the states ass ...... ya see stuff [ make the call over & over .....you can bet you life / if they started getting 100,s of calls a day .... not just DEM ... but your rep/ counselmen / senator/ [governor] So we did make some progress .But it going to take numbers that will make the difference ........ that ,s what shakes up the political side of things ;;
You know who spends the most money & makes the most money ,, when the pogies are in ;;
That,s right >>>>>>>>>> the REC angler & the small businesses that make or break off sales related to fishing with pogies ....

Guess WTF ........ @ 99% of the meetings ....... there are no straight [rec] only ; anglers @ any of the meetings . & if there is . they don,t say . #^&#^&#^&#^& S$%^&..

So to me . This same talk . every fu%^&*( year is getting real tired .

Its like .. Do you vote ??? F $%^&*( no .. it doesn,t matter >>>>>>>> then my reply is . then STFU you have no right to bitch ;

If 20% put your moaning & bitching into getting off your asses in the off season & bitchin @ the meetings . These boats wouldn,t be here today

have a good day

Thanks Mike. I was just about to say the same thing. Where were all you guys that are bitching and moaning????
There were 3 of us at the meeting: MYSELF, MIKE (CLAMMER) and VIC (THROWING TIMBER).
The meeting was at night. It was listed here on this board. Yet 3 of use showed up. YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY GUYS FROM ARC BAIT WERE THERE????

Bunch of f***ing hypocrits on here. You are all bitching now because the pogy boats are taking all the pogies Waaaa waaa! Like Mike says if some of you would get off your asses and help maybe we could be heard but not when there are 30 or 40 of the pogy boat guys and 3 of us.