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06-01-2010, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
While it's still to early to know where the blame lies at the rig, one thing is for sure,
unless honesty and integrity exists on both sides of the coin, the citizens will always pay.
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In a Capitalistic society, "honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin" will never exist. Where there's money, there's greed.
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06-01-2010, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
In a Capitalistic society, "honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin" will never exist. Where there's money, there's greed.
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If money was the only driving force for greed, and if money only existed in a Capitalistic society, and if elimination of greed would guaranty "honesty and integrity", then elimination of Capitalism would guaranty "honesty and integrity".
The trouble is, the presence of money is not limited to capitalistic societies. Nor is money the only driving force for greed. Nor is greed the only obstacle to "honesty and integrity".
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06-01-2010, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
If money was the only driving force for greed, and if money only existed in a Capitalistic society, and if elimination of greed would guaranty "honesty and integrity", then elimination of Capitalism would guaranty "honesty and integrity".
The trouble is, the presence of money is not limited to capitalistic societies. Nor is money the only driving force for greed. Nor is greed the only obstacle to "honesty and integrity".
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A whole lot of qualifiers in there that have nothing to do with my comment. A simple comment, effectively turned into nonsense.
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06-01-2010, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
A whole lot of qualifiers in there that have nothing to do with my comment. A simple comment, effectively turned into nonsense.
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it was a stupid comment...he was just trying to help you out a bit 
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06-01-2010, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
it was a stupid comment...he was just trying to help you out a bit 
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This, from the king of nonsense comments. 
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06-01-2010, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
A whole lot of qualifiers in there that have nothing to do with my comment. A simple comment, effectively turned into nonsense.
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Then let me get rid of the confusing qualifiers:
"Where there's money, there's greed." Although sometimes true, it is not usually so. Most transactions involving money are routine and not a product of greed.
Nor does greed require money to exist. One can have a rapacious desire not only for more money than he needs, but for more food, more power, more sex, more of any commodity, or activity than he needs.
"In a Capitalistic society 'honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin' will never exist." Not true. Honesty and integrity often do exist on "both sides of the coin" (between buyer and seller) in a capitalistic society. It is probably more important for the survival of privately owned businesses to maintain degrees of honesty and integrity than it is for State owned entities that can dictate and enforce obediance and for whom integrity may be irrelevant.
Insofar as money can drive greed, it does so in all modern societies, not just capitalistic ones.
Greed existed before money existed. Greed existed before Capitalism.
Your comment is not as simple as you think. And it is full of nonsense.
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06-05-2010, 05:24 PM
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Ed Markey blamed Bush for the oil spill on Wolf Blitzer's CNN's Situation Room
today. 
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" Choose Life "
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06-01-2010, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
In a Capitalistic society, "honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin" will never exist. Where there's money, there's greed.
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Nothing wrong with money itself, it is a good thing,
but it's "the Love of money" that is the root of all evil.
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" Choose Life "
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06-01-2010, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Nothing wrong with money itself, it is a good thing,
but it's "the Love of money" that is the root of all evil.
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Precisely. At least someone has some common sense.
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