girl solo sailor epibs went off this AM

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mmmmmmmmm

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rescued

French Fishing Boat Rescues Teen Sailor - Boston News Story - WCVB Boston

[Nebe]

from the dad's point of view

Her parents have come under criticism from some observers for allowing the high-risk adventure.
Veteran sailors questioned the wisdom of sending a teenager off alone in a small boat, knowing it would be tossed about for 30 or more hours at a time by the giant waves that rake the Southern Hemisphere's oceans this time of year.
Her father defended the voyage.
"I never questioned my decision in letting her go," he told reporters Friday. "In this day and age we get overprotective with our children. If you want to look at statistics, look at how many teenagers die in cars every year. Should we let teenagers drive cars? I think it'd be silly if we didn't."

[TheSpecialist]

My .02 is that the parents should have in the least had a safety and support ship trailing her. Not to help her navigate, but for an instance like this. They could have been a slave to her lead, and rescued her in an instant.

I am glad she is safe

[numbskull]

So the Australian taxpayers paid to charter the Airbus?
So the fishing boat captain ended up in the water risking his life?
So the fishing boat crew's families will go without their catch shares?
All so a wealthy Calif teenager can play in the Southern Indian Ocean?
Clearly it was worth it from her father's point of view.
Brilliant.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by MarshCappa

Not even close to the truth. She openly says she doesn't care about records, etc. Plus the record wasn't even going to be broken because she stopped at Cape Town for repairs. She could have ended the quest there if it was all about the recognition and records. She's doing it for your passion of the sea and accomplishing and testing her inner strength. It's got nothing to do with recognition from the sailing community IMO. In regards to the bill....that's why we have rescue services for this. Does the Coast Guard charge for their rescues around here?

From the rescue article:

Sunderland set out from Los Angeles County's Marina del Rey on Jan. 23, trying to become the youngest person to circumnavigate the globe solo and nonstop.
Soon after starting her trip, Sunderland ran into equipment problems and had to stop for repairs. She gave up the goal of setting the record in April, but continued, hoping to complete the journey.
Zac Sunderland, her brother, held the record for a little more than a month last year until Briton Mike Perham completed his own journey. The record changed hands again last month, when 16-year-old Australian Jessica Watson completed her own around-the-world voyage.

[Jim in CT]

I just can't resist.

According to Eben, the father defended his decision to encourage her to go by saying "in this day and age, we overprotect our children".

No one will ever accuse this horse's ass of overprotecting his children. Low and behold, turns out he was trying to make a profit. Never would have seen that coming...risking your kid's life for money. I remember a video that circulated a few years ago, a guy who operated an alligator sanctuary was dangling his toddler over the open mouth of a gator. The dad was crucified for what he did. To me, that's very similar to what this Dad did. I guess likwid would say that sincde the toddler wasn't screaming "stop", that I can't judge the guy for holding a 2 year old over the mouth of a carnivorous dinosaur.

Telling a 16 year old "you can't sail solo across the world" does not amount to suffocating your children.

I can't help but be impressed by her skill (i'm assuming it takes some skill to get as far as she did in that boat). And I wish her well in life. With her parents, she has 2 strikes sgainst her

[Nebe]

OMG.. 64 kids with parents that should be lined up and shot
Canadian ship sinks off of Brazil coast; all 64 aboard rescued - Worldnews.com

[likwid]

Have you booked your plane ticket to go yell at her yet Jim? She intends on trying again.

[Nebe]

I hope they give her a more managable boat.
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[likwid]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I hope they give her a more managable boat.
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[Nebe]

Lol
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[numbskull]

Daddy......HELP!

[stcroixman]

now that she is safe i can say it - just another spoiled rich kid.

She wants to try again. She is 16. What about school, boys, sports?

My youngest daughter is 16 and thinks she is stupid. Do I need to say more?

[MarshCappa]

Originally Posted by stcroixman

now that she is safe i can say it - just another spoiled rich kid.

She wants to try again. She is 16. What about school, boys, sports?

My youngest daughter is 16 and thinks she is stupid. Do I need to say more?

Please don't.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by likwid

Have you booked your plane ticket to go yell at her yet Jim? She intends on trying again.

likwid, if I thought it would get through to her Dad, I would do it. But as he, and you, have proven, you can't cure "stupid".

By the way, my 15 year-old wants to fly for the Air Force (we're a military family). I agreed to let her take some flying lessons, but I insisted that she fly with the most experienced, highly regarded, expert around. She only flies on perfect days, and even though her instructor says she could fly solo, it will not happen on my watch, not for a few years.

I don't keep my kids in a bubble. Nor do I give them a whiskey bottle and keys to the car. There is a wide range of activities that allow kids to live life to the fullest, yet aren't certifiably crazy. This one's not even on the fence.

If you'd agree to thist, what could your 16 year old ask permission for, which you would ever say "no" to?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Give it up. Likwid's mother is a hotshot sailor and likwid himself fished WH in the dark! Why would you think he could learn anything about responsibility for other's lives from someone as inexperienced as you?

LMAO numbskull, hope I can buy you a beer one day...

[Nebe]

her new boat has been chosen.

[MAC]

I've sat back watching this thread from the start. I can appreciate both sides of the arguement. I do lean more towards Numby and Jims side though.

My question; Are her parents going to pay for a rescue if needed on another attempt ? Through her families own admission rescue crews were dispatched from 3 continents..... Wonder what the combined cost was ? 10 million ?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

likwid, if I thought it would get through to her Dad, I would do it. But as he, and you, have proven, you can't cure "stupid".

By the way, my 15 year-old wants to fly for the Air Force (we're a military family). I agreed to let her take some flying lessons, but I insisted that she fly with the most experienced, highly regarded, expert around. She only flies on perfect days, and even though her instructor says she could fly solo, it will not happen on my watch, not for a few years.

I don't keep my kids in a bubble. Nor do I give them a whiskey bottle and keys to the car. There is a wide range of activities that allow kids to live life to the fullest, yet aren't certifiably crazy. This one's not even on the fence.

If you'd agree to thist, what could your 16 year old ask permission for, which you would ever say "no" to?

no one has said your a bad parent my friend.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by MAC

I've sat back watching this thread from the start. I can appreciate both sides of the arguement. I do lean more towards Numby and Jims side though.

My question; Are her parents going to pay for a rescue if needed on another attempt ? Through her families own admission rescue crews were dispatched from 3 continents..... Wonder what the combined cost was ? 10 million ?

Couple hundred grand covered by insurance.

[nightfighter]

Back to my original response;

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Solo offshore voyage goes against any premise of good seamanship in my book. Nevermind a circumnavigation.... and that goes for the whole lot of them, from Joshua Slocum, to Chichester, and Dodge Morgan too.....

I, too, was doing a lot of offshore stuff at 16, some of which my parents could never have known what the real deal was. (Likwid has found out about my younger wild days of running race boats...) But, no way I would have considered, nor been allowed to do a solo beyond a day trip. Despite the sailing resumes on display here, I haven't seen anyone put down any extended solo experiences. Going offshore is no joke, for anyone of any age. Even if I had a kid that had the complete toolset, the experience, the mental toughness as well as the mental health that it would demand..... I'm not letting him/her go and do it. I love my kids too much. They have the rest of their lives to pursue adventures. They can pursue that one when they're truly mature and can also contribute to the necessary banking it would require.

[stcroixman]

Originally Posted by MarshCappa

Please don't.

Ok I'll bite. Kids aren't always as stupid as we think. They recognize spoiled rich kids, especilly those who play X games for real like Abby.

Is her daddy going to pay big $$$ for another boat? Why are we supposed to respect this stupid stunt?

I see postings for and against. I am always a non supporter of this Kennedy kind of behavior.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by likwid

Couple hundred grand covered by insurance.

Maybe so, but the response just sounds so cavalier.....I mean, just when have you gotten an Airbus fueled up and told them "don't worry, I have insurance...." Insurance companies are exactly known as the fastest paying outfits around. It's not like they have a regulated "settlement" timeframe like the securities industry does for their transactions. And let's not forget the men and or women who went out there or altered course and missions to assist.


(Damn.... I was doing so well at not getting baited back into this thread, too.....)

[Nebe]

History does not remember those who sat on the couch.

[numbskull]

DDDDDAAAAAaaaaaaaddddd...........y....yyy......... .......

[spence]

What's funny is that if she'd made it and that was the first we had heard...

Everyone would be remarking at what an incredible young woman she was and how proud her parents must be.

-spence

[likwid]

Originally Posted by numbskull

DDDDDAAAAAaaaaaaaddddd...........y....yyy......... .......

I'm wondering if we should remember posts like this if you're found wader boots up...

BTW, there's bass at MTK.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by Nebe

History does not remember those who sat on the couch.

How do we remember Eric Tabarly? As France's record setting solo sailor, who ultimately was lost at sea........while sailing solo. Got to know him in 1982 in Newport.
http://www.sailing.org/halloffame/21218.php

[likwid]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

How do we remember Eric Tabarly? As France's record setting solo sailor, who ultimately was lost at sea........while sailing solo. Got to know him in 1982 in Newport.
ISAF Hall of Fame : Eric Tabarly

Nobody gives a damn about sailing in the US. You know that.

Most have no clue who Joshua Slocum or Nathanael Herreshoff were.
Nor Dodge Morgan, or Mike Plant.

Terry Hutchinson will never be a household name like John Bertrand once was overseas.

Nor will they ever care.