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06-21-2010, 01:30 PM
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I think the point is that US Law requires fair pay and doesn't discriminate based on status. This is probably important so that employers have even more legal pressure not to run sweat shops with poorly paid illegal workers.
Making people aware of this puts more pressure on employers, and if employers can't pay illegal workers any less perhaps they have less incentive to hire them in the first place for those jobs Americans are willing to take. I'd note that in some industries (like agriculture) I believe that illegal workers are actually compensated pretty well because their output is so high. Some areas have shortages of illegal workers during peak seasons.
Given global trends for population declines, there will be even more competition in the coming for good immigrant labor in the future.
Today people are calling to kick them all out, but get ready, in a few decades we might actually be trying to lure more of them in.
-spence
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06-21-2010, 01:44 PM
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if they aren't here...they can't be hired, now can they?...on the other hand...if you give them drivers licenses, healthcare and other government handouts...they get all cozy and feel like they're' entitled to stay...and even complain and organize marches if they aren't getting what they want...
can you show me the "US LAw" that says an employer must pay an illegal fairly and not discriminate based on status?....
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06-21-2010, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
if they aren't here...they can't be hired, now can they?...on the other hand...if you give them drivers licenses, healthcare and other government handouts...they get all cozy and feel like they're' entitled to stay...and even complain and organize marches if they aren't getting what they want...
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Pretty silly statement when they are here and will be here for the future.
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can you show me the "US LAw" that says an employer must pay an illegal fairly and not discriminate based on status?....
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As I said, US Law requires non discrimination and fair wages, but doesn't call out status. I'm sure the constitutionality of these laws could be challenged, but until this happens the law would be applicable in its current form applying to all workers.
-spence
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06-21-2010, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Pretty silly statement when they are here and will be here for the future. Actually, they seem to run like hell when a state decides to get tough and enforce the law
As I said, US Law requires non discrimination and fair wages, but doesn't call out status. I'm sure the constitutionality of these laws could be challenged, but until this happens the law would be applicable in its current form applying to all workers.
that's BS..an employer illegally employing illegals is legally required to pay them fair wages?...unbelieveable
-spence
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this is almost laughable if it weren't so sad!
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06-23-2010, 07:52 AM
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DKNY dress sweat shops
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I think the point is that US Law requires fair pay and doesn't discriminate based on status. This is probably important so that employers have even more legal pressure not to run sweat shops with poorly paid illegal workers.
Making people aware of this puts more pressure on employers, and if employers can't pay illegal workers any less perhaps they have less incentive to hire them in the first place for those jobs Americans are willing to take. I'd note that in some industries (like agriculture) I believe that illegal workers are actually compensated pretty well because their output is so high. Some areas have shortages of illegal workers during peak seasons.
Given global trends for population declines, there will be even more competition in the coming for good immigrant labor in the future.
Today people are calling to kick them all out, but get ready, in a few decades we might actually be trying to lure more of them in.
-spence
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Do you remember when the uproar occurred when Dona Karan of New York was taken to task because her Mexico factories paid substandard wages. The liberal gliterati was in an uproar. It hilarious now how many of those same people hire the illegal alien to do their lawns and nanny their kids and dont pay taxes on their wages because the illegals don't have SS #'s. The same hypocrites that that thought it was awful in the 80's with DKNY wages now hire all the same people.
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