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Old 07-07-2010, 12:59 PM   #1
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I rest easier knowing I dont contribute to the decline of a gamefish. We all have to answer to ourselves in the end. I dont hold anything against anyone in the striper cup, commercial fisherman or anyone who keeps their limit. i get pissed when people with an opinion against the majority get jumped on and called jealous or other things, which is foolish. From my view, some guys out here just want to plan their lips firmly on the a$$ of great fisherman, they dont have the balls to speak their minds. If you dont want an opinion, dont post.

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The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:03 PM   #3
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The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???
Im not pissin on the guys fish, Im aiming at those who attacked the previous posts. read the thread.

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Old 07-07-2010, 01:05 PM   #4
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I have read it! The thread was posted to congratulate a fellow angler on a great accomplishment!! If you can't stay in line with the purpose of the thread then you are "off topic" and should start your own thread about catch and release!

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The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???
As a disclaimer, I caught a 59 pounder once that I knew was the biggest striper in the Fisherman magazine's annual dream boat contest, and so I kept the fish (and alas, didn't win the 24 foot Triton, even though I was contacting marinas to reserve a slip). I felt, and still feel, awful about it. I did eat all the fillets (which tasted just like a 29" fish), but I did feel guilty about killing what was at least a 25 year-old fish.

That being said, I don't think he "pissed" all over the thread (not if you take the time to read what he actually wrote). And if his agenda is the health of the stock, I wouldn't trivialize it as his "own little agenda", because that's my agenda, and yours, too.

I don't begrudge anyone else keeping a trophy. If I had thousands of dollars to gain in a contest, money that could go in my kids' 529 plans, I'd probably keep another. I wouldn't do it just for a keepsake though, but that's just my $0.02.

And I don't see the relevence of suggesting you can't preach release unless you have caught one that big. Using that logic, I could say no one can support that guy unless you caught one that big, and few of us have.
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I rest easier knowing I dont contribute to the decline of a gamefish. We all have to answer to ourselves in the end. I dont hold anything against anyone in the striper cup, commercial fisherman or anyone who keeps their limit. i get pissed when people with an opinion against the majority get jumped on and called jealous or other things, which is foolish. From my view, some guys out here just want to plan their lips firmly on the a$$ of great fisherman, they dont have the balls to speak their minds. If you dont want an opinion, dont post.
Striped bass are NOT a gamefish Jimmy. Maybe that is a good place to start.
I don't know the angler and have never heard of him either,he could just be lucky for all I know. In my opinion that fish deserved an attaboy. I don't plan on"planning" my lips anywhere near him.I must admit Bloo was smooching up to Ken a little too much though.Ken, please send Bloo an autographed picture for the headboard.

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Old 07-07-2010, 03:48 PM   #7
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Striped bass are NOT a gamefish .
really? defeats the whole purpose of this website.

Definition:
gamefish - A fish prized for the sport involved in catching it.

a little more info if you want Wiki - specifically mentions SB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_fish

AND - holy crap, the IGFA (the GF stands for Game Fish) actually has a world record for Striped Bass!

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...Ken, please send Bloo an autographed picture for the headboard...
Sea Dangler, that would be for the ceiling, not the head board....and show me your spots, and I'll smooch with you too ..don't hate the playa, hate the game.


Jimmy...my comments were meant for SweetWater's (stupid post), uncalled for....if you took it personally or felt impelled to defend somebody....oh well I could care less....you keep releasing em, I'll keep eatin' em. Same debate all the time on here.....this site's turned into a bunch of drama-queens.,,,

Hi CowHunter,,, I LOVE YOU, can you take me fishing??? pleeeease!!!!
I better stop before it gets ugly.

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boatfish dont count



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Both Tony Stetzko and Charlie Cinto have 73 lb'ers to their credit. Cinto's was from a boat and Stetzko's from the beach. I've never once heard anyone diminish Cinto's fish from Sow and Pigs vs. Stetzko's from Nauset Beach (or there abouts). Beach or boat, and 73 lb'er is a fish of a lifetime.

Boatfish count.

Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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Both Tony Stetzko and Charlie Cinto have 73 lb'ers to their credit. Cinto's was from a boat and Stetzko's from the beach. I've never once heard anyone diminish Cinto's fish from Sow and Pigs vs. Stetzko's from Nauset Beach (or there abouts). Beach or boat, and 73 lb'er is a fish of a lifetime.

Boatfish count.
It is what it is at the scale... period.

Shame on those that belittle others catches, they dont ever, ever deserve better...
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It is what it is at the scale... period.

Shame on those that belittle others catches, they dont ever, ever deserve better...
nebe was bustin balls guys

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Both Tony Stetzko and Charlie Cinto have 73 lb'ers to their credit. Cinto's was from a boat and Stetzko's from the beach. I've never once heard anyone diminish Cinto's fish from Sow and Pigs vs. Stetzko's from Nauset Beach (or there abouts). Beach or boat, and 73 lb'er is a fish of a lifetime.

Boatfish count.
Boatfish count. I guess bait from shore counts... but there's no way bait from a boat counts.
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Wait till you start live lining macs.

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Old 07-09-2010, 10:01 AM   #15
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WITHOUT stirring it ALL up~~~~

for reels,,,,,,,,,,,,Boat fish DO NOT count!!

they never have and they never will,,,,,,,,,,,

<<<and here is where you should pay close attention>>>

from the perspective of devoted surfcasters,
SURFcasters i say, isay isay, SURFcasting that is!!

WITHOUT going into the oblivion of the obvious,
it is simply NOT the same game and the only common denominator is
that there is a Striped Bass at the end of the line or on the scale.

and here's another wrinkle to throw at ya'll. a Ditch Feesh beats a surf fish, all day long!!

at the Ditch a 20 feels like a 30, 30 like a 40, a 40 ~you get the idea. factor in current, structure, accessability, bait presence, migrational path, etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we could even get supra technical and separate boulder caught from beach caught, bait caught from AYC caught, breachway caught from canal caught within the surf catching genre. the point being that surfcasting, by its nature, has its own and unique difficulties that make IT surfcasting.

it does not diminish either accomplishment; but, to equate them, imho,
is quite ludicrous and ignores the inherent DIFFERENCES between the two disciplines.
difference is okay, difference is reality.

This world is trying it's damndest to universalize EVERYTHING. The gross homogenization of the planet, so that nothing/no one is superior and all things/everyone is mediocre is a slippery slope that has become a landslide. The celebration of mediocraty is killing GREATNESS, true greatness, in its purest and essential form. We have been lowering our higher standards and elevating the bottom to the point that all we will have left is a mild, milk-toast, middle that ALL can acheive. And in doing so, the acknowledgement of absolutes has become marginalized, or ignored at worst, even though their very existence has not diminished. Whatever happened to Go for it!!? IT being the 'creme da la creme'. See our schools, the job place, health care, and even fishing(25#'ers considered LAHHHHGE). I want to aspire to supreme excellence(IGFA world records) and enjoy the many and varied crests, precipices, valleys, narrow paths, and rolling meadows that that particular journey entails,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Even if I DON'T get there, at the bare minimum, I have aimed for the mountain top and its rarified air.

Sadly WE the people,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has been usurped by ME the people.

One needs only look to the plight of the Atlantic Coast Menhaden to understand how the "few" are holding hostage the common wealth of the "many". Further, the current state of our oceans and estuaries, while improved, bemoan a more proactive approach to their rescue and conservation NOW ~strictly from a resource management perspective~ not later, and seems remotely imminent at best. Where is the priority? Whose going to speak to the providence of their fortunes, or are they just expendable victims to be wasted by the whims of the almighty dollar? Which generation will cease and desist the status quo to do what is prudent and RIGHT for us all; that is to say planet, species, and peoples?

By accepting all things as good, embracing everything under the rainbow, and by widening the road to Heaven we are exactly where those that would have us to believe that light is dark and dark is light want us to be. When we ~at long last~ have replaced Biblical Correctness with political correctness, then we will have succeeded with the undoing of America. For truly, my dear friends and countrymen, Political Correctness is the scourge of nations and the battle cry of cowards!! This GREAT Land of ours was founded on principles and doctrines that are nothing more than mere shadows of their former selves.

Change has been thrust upon our doorstep!! This is OUR time, and WE are the ones being chosen to take formative action to recreate a "more perfect Union". Will our legacy arise, or will we remain sheep fit for the ensuing slaughter? For how much longer will we choose to look the other way, choose to seek the paths of least resistence, or choose to ignore that still small voice within that yearns to be HEARD? Action requires courage, revolution is paved by the blood of the innocent, and the complacency of luxury is wrought from the immeasurable expense of a bludgeoned and apathetic Nation.

SO, i ask you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,do boat fish reeeely count?
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Sea Dangler, that would be for the ceiling, not the head board....and show me your spots, and I'll smooch with you too ..don't hate the playa, hate the game.


Jimmy...my comments were meant for SweetWater's (stupid post), uncalled for....if you took it personally or felt impelled to defend somebody....oh well I could care less....you keep releasing em, I'll keep eatin' em. Same debate all the time on here.....this site's turned into a bunch of drama-queens.,,,

Hi CowHunter,,, I LOVE YOU, can you take me fishing??? pleeeease!!!!
I better stop before it gets ugly.
Queens.......haven't heard that one in a while.

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