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Old 07-12-2010, 01:25 PM   #1
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FWIW, the Owner stingers I've used on tuna plugs seem to rust much faster than VMCs... significant discoloration after one trip. These were attached by splits, so I dunno how they'd be if you cut them.

I bet they're still just as strong, however. I've straightened more VMCs and splits this year fishing boulder fields than I ever have before, and if it weren't completely cost prohibitive then I'd change all my hooks over to the owners. I only use the owner splits now- don't trust the other ones, wolverine or not. Haven't noticed any rust on those, yet.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:16 PM   #2
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I've had trouble putting a point back on an Owner once it gets banged up. I have stuck with VMC in the rocks for that reason as much as anything else. Once an Owner goes bad on a boat I typically call it quits on that hook.

I'd invest in a single pack to start. I don't think you'll be too impressed with their rust resistance either. The 2x (which are very strong, don't let the 2x fool you) are also the sharpest hook I've ever seen but they'll rust if you look at them wrong and the 4x aren't anything to brag about either.

Also, 4x Owners are HEAVY duty hooks, and don't grow in a linear fashion. On average though, drop down one size to a comparable 4x VMC 9626PS. 4/0 and 5/0 are giant hooks. You can be almost sure a striper won't straighten them though.

I've never tried to cut a Owner, but the metal they are made of always struck me as "brittle" compared to the VMC. Strong for sure, but it just doesn't feel like it wants to flex. But again I've never tried. I'll be interested to hear how you make out.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:25 PM   #3
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Luds,
Owner Stingers run a size big. Their 4/0 is enormous. Drop down a size from what you normally use. They are thicker and heavier than VMC 6X also.

In 4/0 size: VMC 6X = 5g, Owner = 7g.

Here are 2 4/0z side by side.

PS- Can't cut Owners.
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