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07-13-2010, 08:09 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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i'll see what the conditions dictate and determine my starting point from there. i also predetermine what kind of night, hunker down or sniff 'em out, i'm going to fish based upon my available window, time of year, location, whether i'm going solo, and shared intell.
and then, i let the SPOT dictate my night to some extent. if it's nothing but cookie cutter feesh and nothing larger than 30#-35#, then i'm gone to the next one. the worst is when "everything" is in alignment and you are getting nuthin'~~ the dilemma of "should i stay or should i go" with a proven producer.
however, if i am hitting a spot for less than the hundreth time that can mess me up as well, due to the compiling of data aspect. usually i'll end up checking out "new" spots because it's some place that i've found, someplace that i've heard to be good, and my "known" spots aren't living up to their billing. sometimes it's good, most times it's bupkiss. guess that's what keeps HOPE alive, believing that MY fish of a lifetime is only the next spot away?
i STILL, 5 yrs in, love the CHASE!! when it pays off, it can be glorious; yet, even when i'm humbled by Monsieur LePew i am gathering log info and dialing in my choices for the next haunt. there is also the sunrise factor after a good skunking.
kinda God's way of saying, "Hang in there, Kid, it's not always about the Trophy. Here's a li'l sumthin' to keep you coming back, remember my Son and share my Spirit,,,,,,,,,,," Thanks be to Him, for each and every opportunity to revel in His splendor of Nature and to be Blessed by His graceful Provision.
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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07-13-2010, 09:08 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
if it's nothing but cookie cutter feesh and nothing larger than 30#-35#, then i'm gone to the next one. .
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just to be sure I interpret this correctly, if your catching fish in the 20 to 35 lb range, you leave the spot to find larger fish?
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07-13-2010, 09:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
Posts: 2,264
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
just to be sure I interpret this correctly, if your catching fish in the 20 to 35 lb range, you leave the spot to find larger fish?
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I'm hoping he meant "'s not #'s.
Maybe It's me... but I'm not leaving a school of 30's (lbs)
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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07-13-2010, 10:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,395
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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo
I'm hoping he meant "'s not #'s.
Maybe It's me... but I'm not leaving a school of 30's (lbs)
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im not leaving a steady pick of 15-20's.
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07-13-2010, 10:19 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bassballer
im not leaving a steady pick of 15-20's.
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Inches or pounds?
If you ever listend to one of BTG's seminars he makes mention of the largest fish in the school coming either at the beginning or end of the bite. I can say this scenario has panned out for me countless times and is also a good reason why one shoudn't leave fish, especially large 20# plus stuff, to find larger ones.
...your trophy could be passing by as you're throwing the rods up on your roof rack and peeling off your piss soaked wetsuit in search of greener pastures...many of my real big fish turned out to be either my first or last fish of the night...more often the last...
You should stay put, particularly if you're shore fishing from a single, fixed location like a distant rock or prominent point.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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07-13-2010, 01:49 PM
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Cape Crusader
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Ashland, MA
Posts: 323
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Anyone who is leaving a steady pick of even 20# fish from the shore is certainly a much better fisherman than I............that's what I call a nice night in the suds.
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07-13-2010, 03:58 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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I don't fish anymore so I can't comment on this thread....
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07-14-2010, 08:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,395
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
30# to 35#'s, yes! i will leave those fish once the BITE has peaked.
especially at three of my spots that are Dominant Fish First spots.
rarely has it worked in reverse at either of those loacalites, and
the TRUTH is i'm looking for MUCH bigger fish than 35# to 45#'s.
YES, POUNDS, to be clear,,,,,,,,,,,,,
as Mike said, i do definitely run the risk of a BIG gurl swimming by while i'm on the move,,,,,,,,,but don't i also run the risk of missing HER as the first fish at another spot, should she not be the last fish where i just was?
and i would be moving as the tide dictates, for both spots. also, once i've marked those fish and they're not getting bigger i'll move to the nearest preferred lie, usually within a mile or less either up or down the coast, to keep that next spot honest.
a veritable "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. sure hope that this storm brings a change. it has been s-l-o-w up the Other Cape, for me anyways~~~
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Jess, your honestly telling me that if you got your spot hit (4) 30# plus in 6 casts you would turn around and leave?????????????
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07-14-2010, 08:54 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,413
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bassballer
Jess, your honestly telling me that if you got your spot hit (4) 30# plus in 6 casts you would turn around and leave?????????????
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BD,
you are full of %$%$%$%$ it is coming out your ears.
not one person on this board would honestly leave in that scenario. odds are if there are 35-45's around a larger fish is in the same pod.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-14-2010, 09:49 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
BD,
you are full of %$%$%$%$ it is coming out your ears.
not one person on this board would honestly leave in that scenario. odds are if there are 35-45's around a larger fish is in the same pod.
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Dont diss the Dawg, he's dropped more 50's and 60's than you will ever lose! Nevermind his PB is a low 30s fish. 
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07-14-2010, 10:25 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
Posts: 5,737
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Dont diss the Dawg, he's dropped more 50's and 60's than you will ever lose! Nevermind his PB is a low 30s fish. 
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I didn't know what the Dawg meant in his original post. There is usually too much stuff to read so I skip over most of it. Besides, I can only understand about 20% of what he types anyways.
Anyone who says they leave pods of 30# plus fish is either an idiot or a liar. If I'm into decent fish, I'll stick around until the bite ends. Then, I'll move somewhere else if I don't go home. I fish to have fun, not to be an internet sharpie.
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07-14-2010, 10:00 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kingston, Ma
Posts: 2,294
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
BD,
you are full of %$%$%$%$ it is coming out your ears.
not one person on this board would honestly leave in that scenario. odds are if there are 35-45's around a larger fish is in the same pod.
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I have (30#) And it was worth it for "The One"
Those dang pesky 30# and 40# fish just get in the way and beat the Mega cows to your eel...........But then again, I have weeded thru 25 to 30 INCH fish for hours on end to BAM, Supa Cow (40#+) it up..........
But I rarely leave fish to find fish. That mentality is for the same kind of people that would pick up a pile of money off the ground and just throw it in a trash barrel cause it is litter........ 
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07-14-2010, 10:29 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,413
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redlite
I have (30#) And it was worth it for "The One"
Those dang pesky 30# and 40# fish just get in the way and beat the Mega cows to your eel...........But then again, I have weeded thru 25 to 30 INCH fish for hours on end to BAM, Supa Cow (40#+) it up..........
But I rarely leave fish to find fish. That mentality is for the same kind of people that would pick up a pile of money off the ground and just throw it in a trash barrel cause it is litter........ 
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You, BB and TO may be the exception. 
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-14-2010, 11:19 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
You, BB and TO may be the exception. 
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I'm certainly not the exception, and Redlite is completely full of %$%$%$%$. He wouldn't leave a school of dogfish if they were biting good, much less bass, irregardless of size.
Not sure about TO though as he's a canal biker and can move around quickly in his assless chaps.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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07-14-2010, 05:42 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,395
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
Jason,
NOT in that case,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what i said was when the BITE peaks.
simply, if the size of fish starts to spiral down, or does not change
from mid to upper 30#'ers,,,,,,,,THEN, for that spot, it is time to MOOve.
don't get me wrong, i enjoy landing them; yet, they are NOT the fish i am targeting. i subscribe to the Dominant Fish Theory, wholeheartedly, and i KNOW that it applies to the udl i am speaking of. if true, then i have already caught the biggest fish of that bite.
and it has happened in back to back haunts, within 24 hrs of each other. several feesh, 35's- 25's one night, followed by a First Fish Supa Cow the next night~~~ that Spot is pretty consistent. too bad it happens sooooo stinkin' LATE. it usually doesn't get going until Sept's New 
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In that case you let me know the date and ill make the trip up North. Only i wont be leaving with you when the bite peaks. 
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07-14-2010, 06:21 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bassballer
In that case you let me know the date and ill make the trip up North. Only i wont be leaving with you when the bite peaks. 
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Sept's NEW,,,,,,,,when the High is right
Oct's NEW,,,,,,,,,,,,,same as the first verse
come on up, and we'll fish it. but, i'll have to blindfold you 1st,
TripleDawg swear you to secrecy, and i WILL unleash the hounds
of the neighboring homeowner should any unauthorized haunts take place afterwards!!

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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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