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07-19-2010, 02:09 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
pocket of schoolies at your local does not mean it is a representation of the entire coast.
Good news anyway.
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pockets of no fish at your local does not mea it is a representation of the entire coast either.
Local accounts are helpful but tell us little depending on scale is the important part.
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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07-19-2010, 03:17 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BasicPatrick
pockets of no fish at your local does not mea it is a representation of the entire coast either.
Local accounts are helpful but tell us little depending on scale is the important part.
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Remember, it works both ways. Fantastic fishing in a few locations in no way, shape, or form is indicative of the stock's health. Distribution of a species, both across age range and geographic area is a far better indication of what is going on than a mess of 30 lb bass off race point or 60 lb bass off RI.
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07-19-2010, 03:37 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Remember, it works both ways. Fantastic fishing in a few locations in no way, shape, or form is indicative of the stock's health. Distribution of a species, both across age range and geographic area is a far better indication of what is going on than a mess of 30 lb bass off race point or 60 lb bass off RI.
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One state or even new england alone doesn;t tell the story...this is why they study the sheet out ofthese fish...no questions on good science with S-B...pleanty of it...
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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07-19-2010, 06:53 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BasicPatrick
One state or even new england alone doesn;t tell the story...this is why they study the sheet out ofthese fish...no questions on good science with S-B...pleanty of it...
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Wrong. You are confusing data and science. There is plenty of good data on SB, but when that data is selectively used to support an agenda it does not qualify as "good science". I have been told by a professor emeritus at WHOI that during a meeting with several senior NOAA scientists 2 years ago they reluctantly admitted their population estimate is alarmingly soft and could be off by as much as 50%. If that is the case then the stock is being dangerously overfished.
Keep in mind also that "good science" does not translate into "good fishery policy". Take a look at NE ground fish management and that is immediately apparent. The same process is at work in the ASMFC and it smells the same.
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07-19-2010, 09:04 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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i've caught small fish this year,
from the Harbor to Gloucester.
14" to 24", i had a 16" fish inhale one of BB conrad's!!!
or at least tried to, tough li'l bastage he was, tried to hook me.
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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