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Old 08-21-2010, 08:36 AM   #1
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America is no longer a basic manufacturing-based society. Minimum wage laws, unions, child labor laws, OSHA, workers rights and Asian countries ignoring all of those items have assured that.

Wages and insurance are far too expensive here to maintain decent margins to compete effectively, then add in Unions to further increase those costs significantly further while reducing flexibility.

You think the average Chinese factory worker gets scheduled raises based on seniority as opposed to merit?
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:06 PM   #2
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America is no longer a basic manufacturing-based society. Minimum wage laws, unions, child labor laws, OSHA, workers rights and Asian countries ignoring all of those items have assured that.

Wages and insurance are far too expensive here to maintain decent margins to compete effectively, then add in Unions to further increase those costs significantly further while reducing flexibility.

You think the average Chinese factory worker gets scheduled raises based on seniority as opposed to merit?
Sad but very true Johnny.Well said.

Working in the construction field for almost 20yrs we've been regulated to death by OSHA,the EPA,etc.Don't forget the insanely high cost of Worker's Comp ins. too.

If I were to bid a typical Newport paint job(lead) following EPA,OSHA and the RI DOH and the countries toughest state lead laws I'd never paint a house again.No one could possibly afford to paint their house lawfully with the bid I'd give them.You'd spend more time setting up and cleaning up than performing any actual work.The amount of plastic and tape that you'd have to buy would cost more than the actual labor!

Sadly the US has regulated itself to the point that it costs so much to manufacture or build something here.You really can't blame anyone for buying something made in another country if its all they can afford.Wanna blame anyone we should pointing fingers toward Washington D.C.
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:48 AM   #3
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America is no longer a basic manufacturing-based society. Minimum wage laws, unions, child labor laws, OSHA, workers rights and Asian countries ignoring all of those items have assured that.

Wages and insurance are far too expensive here to maintain decent margins to compete effectively, then add in Unions to further increase those costs significantly further while reducing flexibility.

You think the average Chinese factory worker gets scheduled raises based on seniority as opposed to merit?
don't forget Greedy owners led to many of those laws!
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:20 AM   #4
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don't forget Greedy owners led to many of those laws!
Absolutely. Greed and exploitation. If China actually cared about their workforce or any humanitarian issues, the same laws exist over there. The only time China takes an action is after a situation creates bad PR for them.
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:21 PM   #5
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If it makes you feel any better the Chinese have about 2 more weeks sitting in that 60 mile traffic jam .. maybe we'll catch up while there sitting in traffic .
If you complain about it someone runs you over with a tank ..

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