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			09-17-2010, 10:56 AM
			
			
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				The same family making $1 million a year would get a tax increase of $52,300. 
			
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 I don't think anyone making a million+ a year is filing their own taxes and getting gouged as suggested.
 
And doing the math, I call shenanigans.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2010, 11:18 AM
			
			
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				I don't think anyone making a million+ a year is filing their own taxes and getting gouged as suggested. 
 
And doing the math, I call shenanigans. 
			
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 alternative minimum tax - no loopholes, no tricks, no options. You get nailed.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2010, 02:37 PM
			
			
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		 Since the primaries the Dems have lost 38 members so far to wanting the tax 
cuts rescinded. 
 
Obama's idea is to offer tax incentives for small business and then increase 
taxes on those making over $200-$250,000. 
 According to Salary.com the average small business owner makes $233,600/yr. 
 He giveth and then taketh away being most small business owners fall in that category. 
Why would you want to expand your business so you can pay more 
personal income tax? 
 
What we need is someone like Chris Christie, Governor of New Joisey,  
who has cut every state department across the board and then put a 2% cap /yr on all new expenditures. 
 In addition he has done away with 60 useless bureaucratic agencies and programs. 
That's a start. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2010, 03:17 PM
			
			
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				Since the primaries the Dems have lost 38 members so far to wanting the tax 
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 I'm confused.. 
how do the dems lose someone in the primaries? do you mean an incumbent dem lost to another dem? if so, good. some turnover and balance would be good.
 
Second, does the average small business make 233K? or is that the average take home of the owner? Big difference.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2010, 09:59 PM
			
			
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Second, does the average small business make 233K? or is that the average take home of the owner? Big difference. 
			
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 RRH, that is average take home pay of the owner or CEO of a small business.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-18-2010, 08:50 AM
			
			
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				RRH, that is average take home pay of the owner or CEO of a small business. 
			
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 It's important to note that the small business owner taking home 233K in this example would still have the Bush tax cut under the Dem plan. It's only the portion of income over 250k that would be subject to the old rate.
 
Put into this perspective the tax plan really does only significantly impact very high earners.
 
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			09-18-2010, 10:41 AM
			
			
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				It's important to note that the small business owner taking home 233K in this example would still have the Bush tax cut under the Dem plan. It's only the portion of income over 250k that would be subject to the old rate. 
 
Put into this perspective the tax plan really does only significantly impact very high earners. 
 
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 Spence, from my understanding a person filing a single return would have 
an increase if making $200,000 while those filing jointly would have an increase 
if over $250,000 in income.
 
With most husband and wife working,and filing jointly it wouldn't take much for the small business man 
 averaging $233 K to reach the $250 K and that's just based on average.
 
In today's economy I wouldn't consider $200 K or even $250 K RICH 
for the average family of 4.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-18-2010, 04:28 PM
			
			
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				It's important to note that the small business owner taking home 233K in this example would still have the Bush tax cut under the Dem plan. It's only the portion of income over 250k that would be subject to the old rate. 
 
Put into this perspective the tax plan really does only significantly impact very high earners. 
 
-spence 
			
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 Sole Prop's are screwed any way. I don't think it's just take home. as all income is taxed, somebody who has a saole prop. chime in.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2010, 10:12 PM
			
			
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				alternative minimum tax - no loopholes, no tricks, no options. You get nailed. 
			
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 Totally. it sucks  
		
		
		
		
		
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