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			09-25-2010, 04:05 PM
			
			
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		 Funny thing just now my picture window hummer just showed up.He's now somewhere in the tree,I just can't see him! 
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-25-2010, 04:15 PM
			
			
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		 T- for taunting ----penalty box... 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2010, 05:11 PM
			
			
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				Welcome or unwelcome visitor at the feeder
			 
			 
			
		
		
		If she's eating English Sparrows or Chipmunks, she's welcome if not 
she should find a different hunting ground.  
 
I think it's a juvenile female Cooper because of her size and coloring. 
Could be a Sharp-Shinned but hard to tell without a telephoto.  
Legs were very bright yellow. 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-26-2010, 05:35 PM
			
			
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			11-26-2010, 08:29 PM
			
			
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		 Geez Rav, i knew crows and owls were mortal enemies 
but not crows and hawks. I've heard crows badger owls 
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			11-27-2010, 05:40 AM
			
			
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		 yeah they hate all predator birds... 
 
soooo     territorial about their roost trees.... 
 
use that to your advantage.... 
 
at a very early age i'd have birds (bluejays) 
TAPPING AT THE GLASS BECAUSE I WAS PLAYING BIRD RECORDINGS OUT THE WINDOW - oops caps    
 
you can use recordings to attract birds or repel them in that way 
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			11-27-2010, 07:40 AM
			
			
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				If she's eating English Sparrows or Chipmunks, she's welcome if not 
she should find a different hunting ground.  
 
I think it's a juvenile female Cooper because of her size and coloring. 
Could be a Sharp-Shinned but hard to tell without a telephoto.  
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 Sharpies are a little more common locally than Cooper's but both do occupy the same range.I have a Sharpie that visits every year.Have yet to see him get anything from around the feeders but he's done a number on a small group of pidgeons that hang around my neighborhood.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-27-2010, 07:40 AM
			
			
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				 I think it's a juvenile female Cooper because of her size and coloring.  Could be a Sharp-Shinned but hard to tell without a telephoto.   Legs were very bright yellow. 
			
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 I think it's a fish hawk targeting the fish in your window!  
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-27-2010, 11:19 AM
			
			
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		 we have a Blue jay that has some throat or vocal cord damage 
so that when it tries to make the normal call it comes out distorted  
and sounds exactly like a red tailed hawk instead. 
 
A flock of 500 grackles has descended upon our neighborhood making lots of noise in unison 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			11-27-2010, 12:31 PM
			
			
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				I think it's a fish hawk targeting the fish in your window! 
			
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 LOL, PR    
Rav,my only problem is my neighbors would call the cops for  
disturbing the peace with all those crow calls.    I love the sound 
of crows, takes me back to when I was a kid on the farm.
 
I was reading this morning how tough flyers the Coopers and 
Sharp-Shinned are, flying through branches after their prey. 
30 percent of autopsies done show broken ribs and wing breaks.
 
My one legged female Downy is back.    Talk about tough, climbing 
trees and at the same time getting food on one leg.    
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-27-2010, 01:00 PM
			
			
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		 Understood  Dave....  on the Noise issue  deal 
 
but to understand the "letter of the LAW" 
 
a noise disturbance is "measured" by how many decibels 
is being generated... and for how long too.... 
 
  and i would imagine it would require 
a mere ten seconds for the predatory bird 
 to hear it and FLEE the area.... 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2010, 09:15 AM
			
			
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		 Raven, that blue jay doesn't have a throat problem; it is imitating the hawk to scare the competition.  I've noticed it is not just every blue jay that does it, just a very select few.  I've had one particular bird nesting on my property for the last couple of years making that call from his favorite perches in the general area of his nests.  I had heard that distant call for years and always thought it was a hawk! 
 
This seems to be the time of year that most of the posters on this thread start feeding, but I'm the opposite.  I only feed in the early spring to early summer - once the feeders start getting clogged with fledged sparrows I'm done.  I'll be closing up my cottage soon (then back to Quincy for the winter, where I would just attract pigeons and squirrels) and out here in the wilds of Truro there is so much natural food for them right now (berries, seeds, etc.) that I thing that it is smart to put out feed and get them dependent on a food supply then stop - I don't think that would help them make it through the winter.  But once March arrives I go at it full bore.  The beauty of feeding in the spring is that I'm outdoors all of the time getting my place (gardens cottages splitting wood for heat burning brush etc.) ready to go so I have learned to ID birds through their calls.  It is amazing the range that the blue jay has (I like the one that sounds like a creaky door hinge).  I've learned that another bird with a surprising variety of vocalizations is the goldfinch.   
 
By the time the survivors have made it to spring they are fearless when it comes to feeding - I have literally had them land on the feeder as I was putting it up.  And as the berries and seeds that were so plentiful in the fall are exhausted my feeding stations are a big hit, so my yard becomes a cacophony of bird calls.  Nothing nicer than after the end of a long day doing yard work in the spring after the long crappy winter ahead than to sit down with a beer in the middle of my feeders and taking in the birds doing their thing.  Only three months or so to go - 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2010, 10:14 AM
			
			
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		for drawing the more "exotic"  birds in any environment 
 
  so,  you (2NA)  and Clammer and others who have only pesky 
sparrows ought to give it a shot and feed some wood peckers and Nuthatches for a while. (strictly suet) 
 
   Birds need fat to burn in the dead of winter and insects and grubs provide that for most of the year but not in winter.  
 
now if you have a large amount of starlings that normally are living off the three fast food dumpsters then its a lost cause. 
 
I've had twenty gold finches sitting on a 5 x 5 cube of suet ....still kicking myself that i didn't get that on film and bluebirds and orioles in the spring that never would have been there if not for the suet. 
		
		
		
		
		
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