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10-14-2010, 07:11 PM
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#31
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Formerly the_shocker
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: ricca
Posts: 730
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went to a slammer infomericial a few years back
i'm sure they have their place, but the gags slammer i believe is what they are. no good, acts like a sail. casts 10 feet. i think it's more of a boat plug.
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10-14-2010, 09:45 PM
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
mambo minnows. they go by a different name now as Gags was bought out (i think), but the old ones and the new seem to have an issue where the back trebel rips through the plugs after one or two fish. I have about 6 of the old ones and one brand new one that have been rendered unfishable after minimal use. they do catch though...
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Hmmm... what do you set your drag at?
I've landed multiple 40 inch fish on a single mambo and never had the rear treble pull - granted I have had to bend back or replace the hooks on that plug a couple times. I know some people that the back hook pulls out on a lot, and others (like myself) that it's never happened to.
Braided lines, extra strong swivels, 3x hooks, heavy drag... eventually, something has to give.
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10-14-2010, 09:54 PM
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Central
Posts: 1,280
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishoholic
not really a fan of tsunmai wood. I was given some to try and swimmers were crap. PP's caught and held up fairly well. Stay away from the swimmers. I like their plastics though.
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tsunami wood jointed eels ive done well with this year, not taking anything big, but consistently catching on them. solid paint job i think, and quality hardware.... triple splits etc.. no jointed wood casts worth a damn however
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10-15-2010, 07:11 AM
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#34
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
no jointed wood casts worth a damn however
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i beg to disagree- you just have'nt cast the right ones yet  .
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10-15-2010, 08:08 AM
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: On the Island
Posts: 541
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They all suck. No wait a minute... it is I who suck.
I am zero on all plugs this year. (not for lack of trying) I'm just going to stick to bait.
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"It's not about the fish, it's about fishing for the fish. The fish is gravy."
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10-15-2010, 08:34 AM
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: RI
Posts: 446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
tsunami wood jointed eels ive done well with this year, not taking anything big, but consistently catching on them. solid paint job i think, and quality hardware.... triple splits etc.. no jointed wood casts worth a damn however
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I didn't try any of those, but all of the "round & flat nose swimmers" either had a funky action off the bat or after a few cast the lip became loose and would slide right or left. Also had a siwash fall off for no reason. No argument on the paint or finish. Just don't eat those paint chips if (or when) it flakes off!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by afterhours
i beg to disagree- you just have'nt cast the right ones yet  .
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Very true Don! 
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10-15-2010, 11:46 AM
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#37
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
tsunami wood jointed eels ive done well with this year, not taking anything big, but consistently catching on them. solid paint job i think, and quality hardware.... triple splits etc.. no jointed wood casts worth a damn however
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I have to echo Don's sentiment! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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10-15-2010, 01:01 PM
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#38
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vogt
Also, any Gags wood is garbage IMO. The paint falls off very very quickly and the wood splits right away.
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Actually, I thought that his Sea Special pencils were a pretty good buy when they were about $13.
Now that they run closer to $20, not so much.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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10-15-2010, 01:25 PM
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
Boone needlefish. I don't believe they're made anymore, but if you see them anywhere, don't bother.
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Not that I use them anymore but more than a few guys have mounts on the wall taken with a Boone needlefish. Don't sell them short...
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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10-15-2010, 01:37 PM
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
Posts: 5,737
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
Not that I use them anymore but more than a few guys have mounts on the wall taken with a Boone needlefish. Don't sell them short...
DZ
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I'm sure they were fine plugs back in the day, but over the years I think the quality may have slipped. I have one that's probably 10 years old and from the get go, the paint looked terrible and the screw eyes for the hooks had to be tightened after being used. I can't even figure out how they would become loose from normal fishing. As you know, there are some really great needlefish plugs being made today.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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10-16-2010, 08:08 PM
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#41
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surfwalker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 388
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmarsh
I have been disapointed with lures that have hooks that will marry or get hung up on each other on the cast. A certain custom wood plug I bought does this and it sucks.
Had the belly hook swivel snap off of a another companies needlefish on two consecutive nights. Two different needlefish same company.
I don't want to mention names here.
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If you don't mention the needlefish in order to preserve PC-ness, then I will: Rhode Island Lures Cape Cod Cruiser needlefish.
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10-17-2010, 02:26 PM
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Narragansett
Posts: 132
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On the Mambos, there's a company in China, probably turns out a billion of them a year, sold under different names. You see them all the time for $3.00 at fishing shows. Netcraft used to sell the 7 inch model w/o hooks for $2.50/plug...
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10-17-2010, 03:55 PM
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#43
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Matunuck, RI
Posts: 281
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Agree with you. They are absolute CRAP. (The one I'm referring to specifically was bought because they were priced right, or so I thought at the time. I figured RI company, cool. Well, then someone told me this particular plug is just a knock off made in China that uses a local name. I'm clarifying just so there's no confusion with any genuine RI lure maker. Kapish?)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAUERKRAUT
If you don't mention the needlefish in order to preserve PC-ness, then I will: Rhode Island Lures Cape Cod Cruiser needlefish.
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Last edited by Gobi; 10-17-2010 at 03:58 PM..
Reason: clarification
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10-18-2010, 06:46 AM
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#44
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 75
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A dozen new plugs,  The salty's needle in various colors looks like a good foundation to start with.Everything is going to be new new new!!!
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10-18-2010, 09:21 AM
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#45
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Norwich Ct
Posts: 276
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Northbar Darters....
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10-18-2010, 02:09 PM
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#46
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Onset
Posts: 1,228
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Lemire Plugs jitterbug. Baught 1 to goof around with, made 2 casts, each 1 fouled.
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10-18-2010, 02:20 PM
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: RI
Posts: 446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joe the plumber
Northbar Darters....
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Really??
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10-18-2010, 02:36 PM
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Norwich Ct
Posts: 276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishoholic
Really??
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Fishoholic,
I knew I would get a responce like yours....Yes,its true.I just can't seem to catch fish with these plugs and you know what that means....no confidence in it when I do fish it...Thats not the plugs fault.
I am sure it is a fine plug under the right conditions,so I'm not "really" cracking on it.Just responding with my answer to the post.
Joe
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10-18-2010, 03:28 PM
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#49
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by american spirit
i'm sure they have their place, but the gags slammer i believe is what they are. no good, acts like a sail. casts 10 feet. i think it's more of a boat plug.
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I agree, they constant line catch, and tumble. I dont trust them at all for holding up to fish... BUT I know a guy that has taken two 50"+ fish on these lures from the shore. They work in a handful of unique circumstances.
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10-18-2010, 03:28 PM
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: RI
Posts: 446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joe the plumber
Fishoholic,
I knew I would get a responce like yours....Yes,its true.I just can't seem to catch fish with these plugs and you know what that means....no confidence in it when I do fish it...Thats not the plugs fault.
I am sure it is a fine plug under the right conditions,so I'm not "really" cracking on it.Just responding with my answer to the post.
Joe
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Thanks for the response. You are the first person I've heard knock them so I was curious. I know what you mean with the confidence thing. Until this year I had never caught a fish on a needle and consequently hated them. I'd never give them longer than 5 or 6 casts and I was re-tying.. I'd often think about what I would tie on after the needle before I even tied it on. It took several fish to finally gain some confidence in them.. Now I fish them all the time.. And actually catch stuff 
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10-18-2010, 03:31 PM
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#51
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Just so you guys know its not just as easy as tying on a plug and BANG you catch fish on it!! Many plugs you really have to learn to use them and when you do....a properly worked plug can be devastating in certain situations! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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10-18-2010, 03:31 PM
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#52
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joe the plumber
Fishoholic,
I knew I would get a responce like yours....Yes,its true.I just can't seem to catch fish with these plugs and you know what that means....no confidence in it when I do fish it...Thats not the plugs fault.
I am sure it is a fine plug under the right conditions,so I'm not "really" cracking on it.Just responding with my answer to the post.
Joe
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The northbars were like a bass magnet for me this year. Best plug as far as numbers and size go. I'm thinking about trying them as skin plugs next year... I wouldn't give up on them yet!
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10-18-2010, 04:01 PM
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#53
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Norwich Ct
Posts: 276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Just so you guys know its not just as easy as tying on a plug and BANG you catch fish on it!! Many plugs you really have to learn to use them and when you do....a properly worked plug can be devastating in certain situations! 
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DAM!! And I thought it WAS that easy..... 
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10-18-2010, 04:03 PM
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Norwich Ct
Posts: 276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzo
The northbars were like a bass magnet for me this year. Best plug as far as numbers and size go. I'm thinking about trying them as skin plugs next year... I wouldn't give up on them yet!
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Ok....No BS. I'm gonna throw a couple in the bag for tomorrow night.I will let you guys know how I do.....Serious.
Joe
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10-18-2010, 04:12 PM
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#55
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I don't mean to sound insulting Joe but alot of guys think its just that easy?
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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10-18-2010, 04:25 PM
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#56
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Norwich Ct
Posts: 276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
I don't mean to sound insulting Joe but alot of guys think its just that easy?
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Oh no...I don't think you sound insulting at all.Your comment was appropiate.I was just having a little fun because I agree with you.
You don't know me and its tough with this kind of communication.You can't see or hear the guy talking....I have a little sarcastic edge to my sence of humor.Just ask Gatta Fish....
Joe
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10-18-2010, 09:14 PM
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#57
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I Had A BLAST!
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: I'm from Manhattan, Live in CT., but my heart is in SoCo!
Posts: 1,132
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Any plug that doesn't swim the way it is supposed to. Or the lack of action, thereof 
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Be encouraging, not discouraging
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10-19-2010, 05:01 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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ANY plug with~~~
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,RHM emblazoned on the side,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
never have swum well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,prolly never will!
hard tellin', not knowin',,,,,,,,,,,,,,,with Big F Larry's craftsmansheep!
as i haven't had the privelege of sending any of his wood to the sea.
am hoping to win one, shamelessly whore one, or perhaps find one
~~~wedged amongst the bubbleweed and lobster pots~~~

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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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10-19-2010, 06:36 AM
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#59
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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so the plastic plugs according to Woody's comment
only differ in density
correct?
which allows them to be a slimmer profile
which might explain why wooden pencils are more consistent
fish catchers....
just trying to get behind the "science" of shape and density here. 
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10-19-2010, 07:03 AM
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#60
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Joe - the northbars work, haven't used them too often this year but I have caught on them.
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