Increase in commercial quota for next year

[Adam_777]

The 5 mile scenario was just put out to prove my point that I think the bait is the actual problem here.The people that manage the resources are failing and their decisions are changing migration,spawn and foraging for many different species not just bass.The entire system needs an overhaul.Like said earlier what works for one fishery doesn't for others.Bottom line is no bait=no fish.No bait= fish eat into other fishery's.No bait=bad.Bottom line it's what needs to be fixed.The com quota in some states could be adjusted for fair coverage from all of the other states.I don't see why some of the states with the larger quota's would need an increase .Should be like tug of war if RI gets 100K lbs then a couple of the heavy hitting states should have to lower their overall to make up the difference thus not changing the overall.Until the fishery managers can get accurate stock assessments I don't think an increase in total com take is the right move.Shuffling the take from state to state for now is fine but the problem's will still remain.It's other fishery's impact on the bass that needs to be fixed.So I don't support overall comm increase but I do think they could shuffle the numbers from state to state a bit more.

[piemma]

All good points but I think it was Afterhours who said it best. Give the bass gamefish status and make the limit 1 fish a day. I believe in the 36" or 34" and saw it work in the 80s and early 90s.

In any event, just to reiterate:

Game fish status
No commercial season ....ever
1 fish a day for the recs 34 or 36".

I read a post on the "other" site where this guys bragged that he fishes almost everyday and takes his limit of fish everyday. So if it's 100 days and he takes 2 fish a day then he kills 200 28"+ fish every year. What the hell does he do with that many fish? The man is an idiot and should be banned from this sport.

One other point. I know that there are many guys on this site that are comm. I did it myself in the 70s but it was gas money and bait money and equipment money. It wasn't "make a living money". I have no problem with guys who make a living on the water. I just think the Striped Bass is too valuable of a resource to wantonly slaughtered for commercial or even recreational reasons.

During the moritorium, we that were hard core kept fishing even though we could not keep anything. If you do this thing of ours because you love it, then it doesn't matter if you kill anything. I personally caught well over 200 legal Bass this year. I killed exactly 2 fish that were gut hooked.

We need to apply some sanity or it will be the 80s all over again.

[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by piemma

I read a post on the "other" site where this guys bragged that he fishes almost everyday and takes his limit of fish everyday. So if it's 100 days and he takes 2 fish a day then he kills 200 28"+ fish every year. What the hell does he do with that many fish? The man is an idiot and should be banned from this sport.

I find it hard to believe that someone catches 2 keepers every time he goes fishing

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

I find it hard to believe that someone catches 2 keepers every time he goes fishing

You mean, you don't?

1 @ 36. let's start there!

[goosefish]

We just might have some fantastic bluefish years heading our way.

[Clammer]

GF

don,t fu ckin say that ;;

all the talk on bass // rec,s // commercials //

a fish a day // change the size ?/ make it a slot //


all of this is a never ending argument ..

I .m clueless how they can even think about raising the quota of commercial bass ;; even the commercial guy knows the fish is in trouble ;;

the only real answer .. that will fix it once & for all is make it a gamefish ................ then in a few years .......... if they have a few good YOY classes / them there is a good chance we will be back to the 40" fish that ways 20 lbs .

there are too many parts to the puzzle .............................................. but the biggest issue is ... the YOY for the last 4 out of 6 years has really sucked .............................. some of that is the taking of breeders .......... 36" fish is a breeder ;;
the slaughter of the huge fish /off the Virginia coast that are ripe & waiting for their time clock to tell them when to go inshore & spawn .

the Chesapeak it self is in trouble . its tough to breed when there are dead zones / disease & alot of factors other than fishing .

the f #^&#^&#^&#^&#^& rocker scientest . spent 20 years & billions of dollars on trying to restore the C/Bay .. They finally issued a report last year . that it was a complete failure .
one of the main reason is that they identfied many of the polluntants >>> which are coming from the chemicals & cow animal %$%$%$%$ from the farms ........... f #^&#^&#^&#^&#^& nitwits ........ the farmers were [asked] to put up fences to keep their herds from getting to the creeks & rivers ............ yeah right . the red necks went right out and bought 100000 miles of fencing ;
they knew this was happening / that is / nothing was being done .. the farmers said f uck the bay . so they still spent the billions dollars & waited 20 Years pretty much knowing it was going to fail ..

WTF is wrong with these people ;;

[stiff tip]

NOW THE BEST THING
???? ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS LOWER THE REC SLAUGHTER CATCH BUY 10,000,000 POUNDS AND THE BASS COULD COME BACK FASTER...U BUNCH OF KILLERS

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

I find it hard to believe that someone catches 2 keepers every time he goes fishing

.

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by piemma

All good points but I think it was Afterhours who said it best. Give the bass gamefish status and make the limit 1 fish a day. I believe in the 36" or 34" and saw it work in the 80s and early 90s.

In any event, just to reiterate:

Game fish status
No commercial season ....ever
1 fish a day for the recs 34 or 36".

I read a post on the "other" site where this guys bragged that he fishes almost everyday and takes his limit of fish everyday. So if it's 100 days and he takes 2 fish a day then he kills 200 28"+ fish every year. What the hell does he do with that many fish? The man is an idiot and should be banned from this sport.

One other point. I know that there are many guys on this site that are comm. I did it myself in the 70s but it was gas money and bait money and equipment money. It wasn't "make a living money". I have no problem with guys who make a living on the water. I just think the Striped Bass is too valuable of a resource to wantonly slaughtered for commercial or even recreational reasons.

During the moritorium, we that were hard core kept fishing even though we could not keep anything. If you do this thing of ours because you love it, then it doesn't matter if you kill anything. I personally caught well over 200 legal Bass this year. I killed exactly 2 fish that were gut hooked.

We need to apply some sanity or it will be the 80s all over again.

boat or surf???