High incoming/Low outgoing question. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

numbskull · 10-27-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzo

A spot may produce low to mid 40 pound fish for 9 nine years.

DAMN! All of a sudden my spots all seem like crap.

rizzo · 10-27-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

DAMN! All of a sudden my spots all seem like crap.

Its a surfcasting commandment that on the tenth year, a spot like this will produce a fifty. In that ten year period, you don't have to catch a 40 every year. If you lose a fish you think was bigger than 40 pounds it continues the streak! Also, rumors of other big fish being caught in the area count toward this rule. This works like clockwork, trust me, keep a log to know when you're close to catching a fifty. It just sucks when the rule resets on the 9th year!

Surfcasting is a secret society, not many will post the "real" commandments of surfcasting in an internet forum!

ProfessorM · 10-27-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzo

Surfcasting is a secret society, not many will post the "real" commandments of surfcasting in an internet forum!

bummer I'm screwed

rizzo · 10-27-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorM

bummer I'm screwed

Same here, I don't know any of them, just trying to make it look like I know what I'm talking about to infiltrate the secret society

Back Beach · 10-27-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rizzo

Surfcasting is a secret society, not many will post the "real" commandments of surfcasting in an internet forum!

Pretty sure it was Frank D. who wrote, "You might be a member of the secret society by day, but you won't be alone tonight"

Rockfish9 · 10-27-2010, 08:44 AM

It changes season to season... year to year... sometimes day to day..... it's about current ( as in time oriented) patterens what works in a specific area.. patterens/tides that worked in June, may no longer apply in September... next spring it may change again...the only way to nail it down is to get out and fish...unfortunatly , where I fish... it is not like the vineyard .. where fish are stacked like cord wood waiting to jump on your plug

.. there are times.. especialy early in the season and in the dead of summer.. if you dont fish eels

.. you go fishless..it's just the cold hard facts... even in 3' of water....

this season is a good example of fish changing patterens.. I have a section of beach I fish.. ( Slip and the Professor can back this up) the entire incoming tide will produce, but once the tide tops off... game over... in years past, it's been only the first hour then they disappear... other years the top and first two of the drop...that section of beach remains pretty much unchanged over the last 20 years.. it all depends on bait that is available,,, the river also had some quirks this season... in a certain area, the last hour of the incoming and the first two of the drop produced fast and furious.. after that.. it's curtains...in the past it has always been the last two of the drop.. this pattern hels all spring, summer into the early fall...only experimentation and time on the water can truely point you in the right direction..

numbskull · 10-27-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9

. there are times.. especialy early in the season and in the dead of summer.. if you dont fish eels

.. you go fishless..it's just the cold hard facts... even in 3' of water....
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That has not been my experience....and I drowned a lot of eels before I woke up to what I was missing.

Rockfish9 · 10-27-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

That has not been my experience....and I drowned a lot of eels before I woke up to what I was missing.

see... you learned something today... go north and the fishing is not quite so easy...

wader-dad · 10-27-2010, 11:38 AM

Worst is when I fished a spot for a many years- figured out that the first 2 hours of the incoming when low is 11 pm on a new moon with the wind from the southwest in August or September is as close to guaranteed as you can get- and that is only a couple of nights- and I can't go because life gets in the way. Then wherever I have to be that's not at the spot- I am dying inside.

Vogt · 10-27-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wader-dad

Worst is when I fished a spot for a many years- figured out that the first 2 hours of the incoming when low is 11 pm on a new moon with the wind from the southwest in August or September is as close to guaranteed as you can get- and that is only a couple of nights- and I can't go because life gets in the way. Then wherever I have to be that's not at the spot- I am dying inside.

Sounds like somebody has been keeping a good log.

wader-dad · 10-27-2010, 12:04 PM

Pat- my problem is that I cannot fish as much as I want and I try to make each trip the best shot at it- and cut down on unproductive time.

So I stick to my known areas- until a client says they have a beach house in a private restricted area- then I try to figure it out in a hurry. Nice to pull up to the gate and tell the guard- I am a guest of Mrs Jones.