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		|  11-05-2010, 07:30 PM | #1 |  
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				Lung cancer and smokers
			 
 I heard on the radio this morning that 17 out of 100 people who smoke die from lung cancer, kinda makes me think this anti-smoking craze is a little overboard. And I don't know how they could figure that second hand smoke causes 1.3 people out of 100 to die from lung cancer. I have not looked into where or who did the study but figured this being Massachusetts somebody else can do the work for me  |  
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		|  11-05-2010, 07:54 PM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by ecduzitgood  I heard on the radio this morning that 17 out of 100 people who smoke die from lung cancer, kinda makes me think this anti-smoking craze is a little overboard. And I don't know how they could figure that second hand smoke causes 1.3 people out of 100 to die from lung cancer. I have not looked into where or who did the study but figured this being Massachusetts somebody else can do the work for me  |  Another important thing to remember is that it does a lot of other damage.  Throat Cancer, hardens arteries and leads to many cardiovascular issues (High Blood Pressure & Heart Attack, Stroke, Emphysema) etc. I’m sure there is more but that is off the top of my head |  
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		|  11-05-2010, 08:17 PM | #3 |  
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				 | Those odds were good enough to get me to quit. 17% is nearly 2 chances in 10. Not a way that I want to go... |  
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		|  11-05-2010, 10:14 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by ecduzitgood  I heard on the radio this morning that 17 out of 100 people who smoke die from lung cancer, kinda makes me think this anti-smoking craze is a little overboard. And I don't know how they could figure that second hand smoke causes 1.3 people out of 100 to die from lung cancer. I have not looked into where or who did the study but figured this being Massachusetts somebody else can do the work for me  |  Well smoke away then by all means!   I personally think its the stupidest thing you can do but hey....what do I know! Fire em' up! |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 06:04 AM | #5 |  
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				 | I am in the process of giving it up right now, but not out of fear of disease.  My grandfather lived to be 81 and smoked 3 packs of Winstons a day. A colleague died last year of lung cancer and was a non-smoking health nut so you just don't know.I still enjoy it a little but am really sick of being a slave.
 I've never tried to give them up before but this will be it.
 (BTW, no need to call anyone stupid)
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		|  11-06-2010, 06:14 AM | #6 |  
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				 | Nicotine is addictive, so quitting won't necessarily be easy. Nevertheless, go for it! In time, you'll feel better, be healthier, be rid of the curse, and have more money for fishing gear. |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 06:21 AM | #7 |  
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				 | 8yrs this month I've been free from butts.Best single thing I ever did.I've actually grown to despise the smell of them and sometimes unfortunately the smell of those who smoke them. |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 06:41 AM | #8 |  
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				 | I used to hate the smell when I quit. It smells good enough now to want one 13 years later but I'd never do it. I don't like it when people blow at your face   |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 07:28 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by chrisjoe13  I am in the process of giving it up right now, but not out of fear of disease.  My grandfather lived to be 81 and smoked 3 packs of Winstons a day. A colleague died last year of lung cancer and was a non-smoking health nut so you just don't know.I still enjoy it a little but am really sick of being a slave.
 I've never tried to give them up before but this will be it.
 (BTW, no need to call anyone stupid)
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I don't look down on people who smoke, have at it if they like. I just want to live as long as possible and smoking is not worth the risk for me anymore. 
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		|  11-06-2010, 07:51 AM | #10 |  
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				 | BTW.....Don't put words in my mouth! I said it was a stupid thing to do......didn't call anyone stupid!  |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 07:58 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by BigFish  BTW.....Don't put words in my mouth! I said it was a stupid thing to do......didn't call anyone stupid!  |  semantics....
 
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					Originally Posted by Slingah  Good luck chrisjoe13..... |  thanks man. |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 08:02 AM | #12 |  
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				 | Yup! Its all how you slice it! BTW....You don't want to know how I really feel about smoking!  |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 10:30 AM | #13 |  
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				 | Off topic but--I got 1.5 years off the butts. |  
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		|  11-06-2010, 04:50 PM | #14 |  
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				 | I can't figure how people can afford to smoke anymore, especially teens in the formative years:  $8/pack!  Who doesn't smoke less than a pack a day.  It was bad enough at $2/pack.
 I smoked for 30+yrs, haven't had one since about '93.
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		|  11-06-2010, 06:19 PM | #15 |  
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				It is stupid/selfish/and a few other things I cant say
			 
 Twenty years ago, this February 26th, 7:10 P.M.
 Not that I am keeping track.
 
 And it was the stoopidest thing I ever did in my life was to start smoking.  At one time almost four packs a day.  The worst thing was I didn't realize how much I made everything stink around me.  My house, clothes, blah, blah, blah.
 
 Cold turkey................cold turkey................
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		|  11-06-2010, 07:00 PM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by ecduzitgood  I heard on the radio this morning that 17 out of 100 people who smoke die from lung cancer, kinda makes me think this anti-smoking craze is a little overboard. 
 And I don't know how they could figure that second hand smoke causes 1.3 people out of 100 to die from lung cancer.
 
 I have not looked into where or who did the study but figured this being Massachusetts somebody else can do the work for me  |  
overboard on an anti-smoking craze? This isn't the 1700's, modern medicine and technology will tell you the stuff you inhale from cigarettes can and will cause you harm. It ends up costing all of us in society, even non smokers, since healthcare costs are higher because of stuff like emphazema, kind of like the way shoplifting rises costs of goods.
 
Secondhand smoke is nasty, some people are so sensitive to smoke, that they get instant headaches, wheeze and get sick. I have asthma and I can't tolerate smoke form others smoking anymore even outside I have to be upwind of someone or I'll move. It really sucks.
 
There is enough air pollution in our world already, no need to inhale anymore of it and add to it.
 
make sure you buy your smokes in a town that the majority of voters didn't vote to re-elect Barney   |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 07:01 AM | #17 |  
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				 | its the Nicotine and THE ADDITIVES  to make the tobacco   smoke smoother and or uniformly
 resin from cannabis is the cure for cancer but because the pharmaceutical companies can't make a profit from a plant
 that could easily grow in your back yard this info is ignored 100 %
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		|  11-07-2010, 08:42 AM | #18 |  
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				 | So there is a cure for cancer people are ignoring because they can't profit from it??    |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 09:20 AM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by Raven  its the Nicotine and THE ADDITIVES  to make the tobacco   smoke smoother and or uniformly
 resin from cannabis is the cure for cancer but because the pharmaceutical companies can't make a profit from a plant
 that could easily grow in your back yard this info is ignored 100 %
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Damn - Cannibas is the cure for everything? Inflation, cancer, taxes, eel longevity and color, the Space Program.
 
Smoking sucks. |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 10:24 AM | #20 |  
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				 | I remember years ago when some considered it "cool" to smoke.(Wasn't it Joe Cool the guy on the billboards )
 Not I see someone with one I laugh and wonder if they realize how pathetic they look, let alone how bad they stink.
 Stupid !
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		|  11-07-2010, 02:29 PM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by #^^^^& Durand   be rid of the curse, and have more money for fishing gear. |  
truth. freakin 9 bucks a pack. i just steal jays tho |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 02:55 PM | #22 |  
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				 | Nov.2 1973 steaming down Chesepeake Bay heading to the Middle East for 7+ months.Butts were $1.10 a"carton" at sea and $.45 in a machine[rememeber them].I knew if I didn't quit then I'd probibly never quit.Best thing I've ever done for myself.But I think smokers are getting the shaft in general these days. |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 03:21 PM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by BigFish  So there is a cure for cancer people are ignoring because they can't profit from it ??    |  considering that it was discovered in the mid 70's - yep  
 
and has been ever since....
 
they couldn't let the cancer "industry" collapse then or Now 
(and all the associated drugs) with it
 
  the Government knows...  its the same old plausible deny ability trick 
to such outrageous levels that know one can even imagine a 
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		|  11-07-2010, 03:28 PM | #24 |  
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				 | So hash cures cancer ? I should be set for life from the bricks of it I've tested in the past.  |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 03:31 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie  I remember years ago when some considered it "cool" to smoke.(Wasn't it Joe Cool the guy on the billboards )
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		|  11-07-2010, 03:49 PM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by Adam_777  So hash cures cancer ? I should be set for life from the bricks of it I've tested in the past.  |  come on...you know it won't work like that... 
first you gotta get the cancer...THEN smoke the weed...and then you will be all set   |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 05:00 PM | #27 |  
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				 | Not only does resin cure cancer, it cures anorexia as well   Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 05:20 PM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nebe  Not only does resin cure cancer, it cures anorexia as well   Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |     
and insomnia!!   mucho plenty usages! |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 06:56 PM | #29 |  
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				 | Yeah, but there is an increase deaths caused by passing out w/ a mouthful of Doritos |  
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		|  11-07-2010, 07:05 PM | #30 |  
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					Originally Posted by Adam_777  So hash cures cancer ? I should be set for life from the bricks of it I've tested in the past.  |  It helped wein me off butts in the middle east.The stuff with the Pakistani seal was the best    .It made the food on board ship  great!!! |  
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