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Old 12-10-2010, 08:25 AM   #1
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Do you mean a Blockheater?

If so - well worth the investment. SuperCold mornings the diesel starts right up with no smoke. Very nice in the early spring and fall.
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:56 AM   #2
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There has been some write ups on these and if I can find it I will post it. Basically there is some evidence that it is better not to let a diesel get that cold.. Frankly I don't see it as a problem as long as you are not starting it when it is really cold (thermal expansion rate issues) There will be some stresses on the block when it gets cold though, no question. Deisels just don't like being started real cold. Lots of times you will see more smoke in the late fall and that is due to the current engine and fuel temp.

I think the so called "bilge heaters" are expensive because they are "marine" and will work for gasoline engines and are spark arrested and can be exposed to moisture.

My uncle use to keep his big boat in the water year round in a canal behind his house. The water would freeze up thick but he had a "bubbler" installed on the bottom under the boat and it ran all winter to keep the ice clear next to his boat. He also had a bilge heater to keep the bilge around 40 degrees. He would start the engine thru-out the winter from time to time.


I have two of the cheap heaters in my boat now. (they are not in the bilge but the thought has crossed my mind to get a real bilge heater as well) One is not much of a heater but more of something to help combat moisture...moving slightly warm air in confided places . The other is a cabin heater...sort of like a toaster with a fan. I use it when I am on board working on a boat project. It can warm up the boat to whatever you want...it is nice in there. Neither are made for wet environments but if your bilge is dry and you are out of the water I suppose you could put one of those 79 dollar heaters in there (but it is intended for cabin space)...there is a freeze setting on the thermostat to not let the room go below 38 degrees. I only turn these on when I am on the boat during the winter.

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Old 12-10-2010, 09:28 AM   #3
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I really wouldn't bother heating your bilge in the yard. This is not the same scenario as if you were using the boat in the winter and using a block heater. That heater probably cost $400 for if it is an official heater for that purpose it is probably explosion proof. Just keep what your doing with the heaters you use when doing projects.

It is good practice to always use some kind of engine preheat to keep things more "expanded". Even when laying up for months at a time in warmer environments it is the practice, (commercial wise). This is not always possible or practical with smaller engines, i.e. if on a mooring you can't plug the boat in. For these situations just make sure your using the proper oil for winter months. i.e. a multiviscousity oil or a lighter weight recommended by the oil engine, oil OEM.

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Old 12-10-2010, 09:38 AM   #4
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As for block heater you can get a generic block heater like this Wolverine Engine Oil Heaters Engine Block Heater for 89 bucks. (never been a fan of those dipstick devises) It is a pad that attaches to the underside of the oil pan and from what I heat they work great. (but you need 110 power) Since I am currently planing on extending my fishing season next year it is on my list of stuff to get. But I don't know if they are intended for winter storage devises.
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:26 PM   #5
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Do you mean a Blockheater?

If so - well worth the investment. SuperCold mornings the diesel starts right up with no smoke. Very nice in the early spring and fall.
I have a block heater in my Jeep, you don't need one, at least the jeep boards so guys to -20F not using them
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:37 PM   #6
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One of my plow trucks I had in the past was a Ford F8000 with a Cat 3208 naturally aspirated.
A few winters ago I plugged in the block heater for a whole month because it smoked like hell when started on a really cold day.
After I saw that months electric bill (jumped $300)
The block heater has not been plugged in since, I'll let it smoke !
Plus my trucks are parked behind my garage close to an acre away from my house and I have no abutting neighbors.

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Old 12-10-2010, 09:53 PM   #7
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One of my plow trucks I had in the past was a Ford F8000 with a Cat 3208 naturally aspirated.
A few winters ago I plugged in the block heater for a whole month because it smoked like hell when started on a really cold day.
After I saw that months electric bill (jumped $300)
The block heater has not been plugged in since, I'll let it smoke !
Plus my trucks are parked behind my garage close to an acre away from my house and I have no abutting neighbors.
I agree it smokes when it starts, sounds like well you know, so what.
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:19 PM   #8
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One of my plow trucks I had in the past was a Ford F8000 with a Cat 3208 naturally aspirated.
A few winters ago I plugged in the block heater for a whole month because it smoked like hell when started on a really cold day.
After I saw that months electric bill (jumped $300)
The block heater has not been plugged in since, I'll let it smoke !
Plus my trucks are parked behind my garage close to an acre away from my house and I have no abutting neighbors.
Engine is just cold and not cooking off all the fuel. *shrug* If it starts it starts. If not, well, yeah.

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