Beach master Gibbs styleneedle

[Finaddict]

Afterhours has a big needle - don't remember if it's 3, 3.5 or 4 - but it's a biggun ... and I am pretty sure he has them in multiple sink rates.

[piemma]

You guys should see Salty's "secret" needles. Makes anything you have see look small. I think they are 14 or 16" long and an inch in diameter. Absolutely beautiful. I was at the "inner santium" a couple of days before Xmas.

[numbskull]

Big does not necessarily mean deep or rough water. The BM musso style wadd runs right on top. As for their large Gibbs style, I've only fished an eelskin version and that doesn't strike me as a deep running plug.

The disadvantage of heavy medium needles like the BM that cost a lot is that you need to plan on losing several each year.

For all needles, it is more the ratio of tail to front weight that determines where it runs. Heavily tail weighted needles cast far but plane quickly to the top because of the angle they sit in the water. More balanced stuff (like afterhours) that sinks at less of an angle tends to run more level at whatever depth you chose to start your retrieve.

[DZ]

Originally Posted by numbskull

For all needles, it is more the ratio of tail to front weight that determines where it runs. Heavily tail weighted needles cast far but plane quickly to the top because of the angle they sit in the water. More balanced stuff (like afterhours) that sinks at less of an angle tends to run more level at whatever depth you chose to start your retrieve.

Great statement George! All those who would like better success when casting needles take heed.

DZ