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01-05-2011, 08:28 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
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yeah, weather conditions can definitely affect your casting...or should I say lobbing as with the bigger models, but then again...that's how you'd be casting a real live Herring anyways  ....and by controlling the height of the rod tip, you can most certainly catch in skinny water on slower retrieves...
It's definitely in my rotation of plugs through out the night. If I found that the long-rangers were finding the fish, it stayed in it's holster though
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01-06-2011, 07:47 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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One problem with the canal is the lemming like mentality of many who fish there. There's a lot of imitation going on there and if one person does it, many others follow. I can't slight the sebile stuff as I've seen fish come up for them when nothing else will work.
It becomes difficult to determine how good an individual lure really is when everyone is throwing them. If everyone suddenly started throwing white danny plugs you'd begin to see a disproportionate number of fish caught on white danny plugs and the lemmings would clean every last one off the shelves.
With the above said, I did quite well in the canal this year on metal lipped plugs, at times they out fished the sebile stuff. I don't own any sebile stuff as I try to fish my own lures, but can't argue against the sebiles being highly effective at certain times.
As an add on to my point, we used to fish rebel f-90's and musso needlefish exclusively off race point and never thought to throw anyting else. Not sure they were the best lures, but they were responsible for a disproportionately large amount of fish simply because they woked well at times and also because its all anyone threw.
One of my mentors always used to ask me, "What's the best plug, Mike?" He would pause a second and then answer, "Whatever is working best at the given time."
Last edited by Back Beach; 01-06-2011 at 09:02 AM..
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It's not the bait
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01-06-2011, 09:30 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
One problem with the canal is the lemming like mentality of many who fish there. There's a lot of imitation going on there and if one person does it, many others follow. I can't slight the sebile stuff as I've seen fish come up for them when nothing else will work.
It becomes difficult to determine how good an individual lure really is when everyone is throwing them. If everyone suddenly started throwing white danny plugs you'd begin to see a disproportionate number of fish caught on white danny plugs and the lemmings would clean every last one off the shelves.
With the above said, I did quite well in the canal this year on metal lipped plugs, at times they out fished the sebile stuff. I don't own any sebile stuff as I try to fish my own lures, but can't argue against the sebiles being highly effective at certain times.
As an add on to my point, we used to fish rebel f-90's and musso needlefish exclusively off race point and never thought to throw anyting else. Not sure they were the best lures, but they were responsible for a disproportionately large amount of fish simply because they woked well at times and also because its all anyone threw.
One of my mentors always used to ask me, "What's the best plug, Mike?" He would pause a second and then answer, "Whatever is working best at the given time."
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One thing about the Sebiles, they work in all current situations, try throwing a Danny at full tide--waste of time. Also they give you another advantage, because they sink you can work different parts of the water column and you can stop them giving the deadly look of a dying bait, a metal lip floats to the surface on the pause, which can also be deadly. A caveat to the Sebiles in calm water is that the fast sink needs current or a lighting-quick retrieve, the slow-sink seems to be universally effective.
I think the point here is that you should really be throwing both, the Sebile does not replace all other plugs as many of the Canal guys would have you think. There's a situation for everything.
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01-06-2011, 09:46 AM
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Respect your elvers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canalman
I think the point here is that you should really be throwing both, the Sebile does not replace all other plugs as many of the Canal guys would have you think. There's a situation for everything.
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Indeed.
More to the original intent of this thread, I think the sebiles are the "hot" lure in the canal right now for reasons already mentioned, but that can change and likely will at some point.
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It's not the bait
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01-06-2011, 10:03 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
Indeed.
More to the original intent of this thread, I think the sebiles are the "hot" lure in the canal right now for reasons already mentioned, but that can change and likely will at some point.
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Agreed, and just to be clear when I said "you" I meant everyone not you specifically  I think you knew that anyway but... that's how these things start...
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01-06-2011, 11:41 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
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EXCELLENT points, Mike and Dave~~~~
of the plastiques/rubber trilogy my preference is CLEARLY
the deep shad by Tsunami, then the 7"- 9" paddle tail by Tsunami/Storm.
neon green for the former and white to bunker for the latter.
for me, the trick is to be the NEXT trend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
that way i'm thinking ahead of the feesh,
perhaps giving them/HER sumthin' she hasn't seen in awhile,
possibly creating a new wrinkle or reviving an old one in the Strigh Ped Bass Canal Continuum,
and aiming to remain in the vein of "beeing the Report, NOT chasing the report."
already bounced a theory or three off of one of me fellow NShorians~~ that is verrrry far removed from stick shaddin' The Ditch!
only time and tides will tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,C'MAWWWN Springtime, C'MON!!

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01-06-2011, 12:04 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
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i almost forgot,,,,,,,,,,,,,
in keeping with the crux of the thread,
i Sebiled the infamous Herring Stick Shad
from Cape Ann to SoCo and ALL points inbetween,
from Spring to Fall, in darkness and thru 1st light, moving and still waters,
from the top to the middle and back to the top of the column,
through every phase of tides, and inside/alongside/frontside/and coveside of the walls and b'ways along the coast.
i jerked it, ripped it, paused it and dipped it.
i worked it, flipped it, tossed it, and skipped it.
mostly to no avail and to teeners exclusively,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
but i DO NOT think it was thru any fault of the lure, itself.
more the result of the offering not being offered
during a feeshy where and when. i'll give it a go again next yr, just prolly further down in the rotation, for me.
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