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01-10-2011, 04:46 PM
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Shut down the SB fishery all together coast wide. No rec or comm. for 10 years. There needs to be a sanity check.
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01-10-2011, 06:14 PM
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Location: Mansfield, MA
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Shut down the SB fishery all together coast wide. No rec or comm. for 10 years. There needs to be a sanity check.
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 Couldn't agree more.
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01-10-2011, 06:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Shut down the SB fishery all together coast wide. No rec or comm. for 10 years. There needs to be a sanity check.
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And let all that exploitable resource go to waste?
Snap out of it man. You sound like a socialist.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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01-10-2011, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Union,NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Shut down the SB fishery all together coast wide. No rec or comm. for 10 years. There needs to be a sanity check.
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Yeah, try explaining to those guys down there when they are limiting in 1 troll pass that the fish are near extinction... You guys in the northeast cant take care of the most important factor effecting striped bass and thats the bait! All the charter Captains and rec guys banned together off the NJ coast and accomplished in a matter of months what you have been trying to do for years, kick the bunker boats out from .6 miles off the beach to 3 miles, they have been out of the bays for years. You guys still have them in the bays!!! No bait, no fish.. Geez Mr sandman, wonder why the fishing in the vineyard sucked this year??? Cause the squid never showed in may as did the bass! The cape had the best run in years! When one area lacks, another flourishes... These are resilient fish and the will find the bait to survive, they are moving further south than they have been in years and further north. I have caught them as cold as 38 degrees and they chewed with a vengence and as warm as 76! Those big bodies of fish need the bait to sustain them, as long as all the harbors, bays on the coast dont have the menhaden these fish will make their homes offshore more and more and surfcasting will be a thing of the past... Not being an ass just stating the reality of it.
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01-10-2011, 08:47 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Originally Posted by CowHunter
Yeah, try explaining to those guys down there when they are limiting in 1 troll pass that the fish are near extinction...
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Super high concentrations of fish that are fattening up in the prespawn before heading in to lay eggs hardly defines the state of striped bass throughout the coast.
If it were legal, I could go down to the Canal and a number of other locations in the spring and get as many river herring as I wanted in minutes. That doesn't mean the herring are in huge abundance and don't need to be protected.
Huge schools of BFT can be found in the same area pretty consistently, sometimes for months at a time (getting them to bite is a different story), doesn't mean the tuna stocks are healthy.
We definitely have problems with protecting bait up here, that's for sure. Don't try to say the guys down there are innocent of blame, especially with the widely known and accepted practices of fishing outside the 3-mile limit that goes on down there.
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01-11-2011, 09:09 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Union,NJ
Posts: 989
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Super high concentrations of fish that are fattening up in the prespawn before heading in to lay eggs hardly defines the state of striped bass throughout the coast.
If it were legal, I could go down to the Canal and a number of other locations in the spring and get as many river herring as I wanted in minutes. That doesn't mean the herring are in huge abundance and don't need to be protected.
Huge schools of BFT can be found in the same area pretty consistently, sometimes for months at a time (getting them to bite is a different story), doesn't mean the tuna stocks are healthy.
We definitely have problems with protecting bait up here, that's for sure. Don't try to say the guys down there are innocent of blame, especially with the widely known and accepted practices of fishing outside the 3-mile limit that goes on down there.
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Nobody said they are innocent I know for fact that boats are running due east and breaking the law this year put its probably way less than 10 percent of the fleet THIS YEAR... Its a 60 plus mile run south from Rudy, last year after Jan 8 there were no fish inside... This year there are more fish inside 3 miles than I have seen for years and it looks from being down there that the majority of the fleet are playing inside, just no need to go outside... I was there for few days and was boarded by the coast guard and checked in legal waters, so they are down there, I have heard of handful of boats busted this year. Even With all the fish inside 3 miles, There are WAAY More fish that are staying offshore and have been caught down there 13 plus miles.
As far as prespawn fish, we catch fish here From April through the end of June in NJ. I fillet Alot of fish for my clients and can tell you that the ocean run fish we are catching in Late May all through June are still loaded with Roe.
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01-11-2011, 08:29 AM
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Wipe My Bottom
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,911
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
Yeah, try explaining to those guys down there when they are limiting in 1 troll pass that the fish are near extinction... You guys in the northeast cant take care of the most important factor effecting striped bass and thats the bait! All the charter Captains and rec guys banned together off the NJ coast and accomplished in a matter of months what you have been trying to do for years, kick the bunker boats out from .6 miles off the beach to 3 miles, they have been out of the bays for years. You guys still have them in the bays!!! No bait, no fish.. Geez Mr sandman, wonder why the fishing in the vineyard sucked this year??? Cause the squid never showed in may as did the bass! The cape had the best run in years! When one area lacks, another flourishes... These are resilient fish and the will find the bait to survive, they are moving further south than they have been in years and further north. I have caught them as cold as 38 degrees and they chewed with a vengence and as warm as 76! Those big bodies of fish need the bait to sustain them, as long as all the harbors, bays on the coast dont have the menhaden these fish will make their homes offshore more and more and surfcasting will be a thing of the past... Not being an ass just stating the reality of it.
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Kenny, that sure explains a lot. MV really was awful last year. Never seen it that bad.
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