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02-08-2011, 07:20 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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I'm still a bit confused about this.
What do I have to do if a summer guest wants to go fishing on short notice (you know, like a 2 hour after dinner spur of the moment beach walk to throw some plugs). Is there some sort of transferable guest pass you can buy?
How about when 4-5 college kids show up and decide they want to go chase bluefish or bonito for an afternoon? Is there a boat pass?
10 bucks for me, another 10 each for my three sons, seems OK, but having to buy licenses in advance for any guests that might or might not like to tag along will add up quickly.
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02-08-2011, 07:24 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I think they are still free this year...you just have to give them $10.00. They accept check only or money but no cash. Hope this clears things up? 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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02-08-2011, 08:21 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Now my advice for those who die,
Declare the pennies on your eyes,
'Cause I'm the Taxman,
Yeah I'm the Taxman.
All it is, no more, no less. 
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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02-08-2011, 11:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,595
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 I like the Reciprocity Act of 2011 lol
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02-08-2011, 12:00 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
I'm still a bit confused about this.
What do I have to do if a summer guest wants to go fishing on short notice (you know, like a 2 hour after dinner spur of the moment beach walk to throw some plugs). Is there some sort of transferable guest pass you can buy?
How about when 4-5 college kids show up and decide they want to go chase bluefish or bonito for an afternoon? Is there a boat pass?
10 bucks for me, another 10 each for my three sons, seems OK, but having to buy licenses in advance for any guests that might or might not like to tag along will add up quickly.
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don't worry about it, if questioned, just say they are under 16 or disabled.
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02-08-2011, 01:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Quincy Ma.
Posts: 54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
I'm still a bit confused about this.
What do I have to do if a summer guest wants to go fishing on short notice (you know, like a 2 hour after dinner spur of the moment beach walk to throw some plugs). Is there some sort of transferable guest pass you can buy?
How about when 4-5 college kids show up and decide they want to go chase bluefish or bonito for an afternoon? Is there a boat pass?
10 bucks for me, another 10 each for my three sons, seems OK, but having to buy licenses in advance for any guests that might or might not like to tag along will add up quickly.
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GO ON LINE AND PRINT 0UT LICENCES AND YOUR GOOD TO GO ADD 10.00+$1.58/now he owes you $$$$$$
Last edited by xyzs; 02-08-2011 at 01:31 PM..
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02-09-2011, 10:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
I'm still a bit confused about this.
What do I have to do if a summer guest wants to go fishing on short notice (you know, like a 2 hour after dinner spur of the moment beach walk to throw some plugs). Is there some sort of transferable guest pass you can buy?
How about when 4-5 college kids show up and decide they want to go chase bluefish or bonito for an afternoon? Is there a boat pass?
10 bucks for me, another 10 each for my three sons, seems OK, but having to buy licenses in advance for any guests that might or might not like to tag along will add up quickly.
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At the MV Surfcasters Annual Banquet this year the local EPO (MA) talked about the lic.
Here is what I took away:
Everyone must have a lic. those under 16 or over 65 do not pay for one but must have one anyway. You can get one online but there is a "convenience fee" even if it is free.
I think it is 10 bucks for everyone else.
There is a boat lic but that is for lic'ed charter capt's and covers everyone on board. I don't think there is a boat lic for for rec fishermen.
I think you will be able to get them at tackle stores at some point.
He said the entire reason for this lic is to create a list of fishermen (name address, phone credit card numbers etc) and this list will be given to the Feds. They will call you (at the dinner time hour) to query you on your fishing habits/success. According to him the money will go to create the list and pay for the web site. Any remaining monies will go to the access fund. No money will be going to enforcement of this. As of right now he said there is actually NO law written and there is technically nothing to enforce. (But it is coming) BTW, Rate hikes are already in the works for coming years.
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02-09-2011, 10:55 AM
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Not Jack
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Other Cape
Posts: 1,239
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I could really care less about the license... I know that it'll likely go up year by year, and that'll get frustrating, but I like the fact that it'll go to a dedicated fund and those that fish will hopefully see some benefits in the form of increased enforcement, better shoreline access, etc etc from it. I don't get all the hooplah over a dollar and change 'convenience' fee, I'd spend more in gas going somewhere to pick it up.
What I'm still unsure of is reciprocity. VB, where did you get that image from? The Mass DMF website reads:
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Who needs the MA Recreational Saltwater Fishing Permit?
In order to fish recreationally for finfish in Massachusetts marine waters, including up to the first dam in rivers and streams that flow to the ocean (click here for exceptions to the rule pdf icon), saltwater fishermen must have:
* A MA Recreational Saltwater Fishing permit, or
* A recreational saltwater fishing permit from a state that has a reciprocity agreement with Massachusetts. As of January 1, 2011, Massachusetts has reciprocity agreements with:
New Hampshire
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Doesn't say anything about RI waters. I fish RI often, so this is a concern to me. RI DEM states:
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Where does the license apply?
RI waters: RI's recreational fishing license applies in all of RI's marine waters, which begin at the inland edge of all tidal water areas and extend seaward out to three miles. The defined boundaries separating RI's freshwaters and saltwaters can be found in section 2.6 of DEM's Freshwater and Anadromous Fishing Regulations.
Federal waters: The RI license also applies in all offshore federal waters, which extend seaward from the seaward edge of all state waters.
Other state waters: The RI license also applies in the state waters of Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New York, as well as in the waters of all other states that honor RI's license (a list of all other states will be provided here as soon as information on those states is collected).
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So... As I see it now, an RI license works in RI, MA, CT, and NY, but a MA license only works in MA & NH. Can anyone clarify?
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02-09-2011, 11:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JackK
but I like the fact that it'll go to a dedicated fund and those that fish will hopefully see some benefits in the form of increased enforcement, better shoreline access, etc etc from it.
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02-09-2011, 11:56 AM
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Not Jack
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Other Cape
Posts: 1,239
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I hope you're not right... I know it's mandated that it goes into a dedicated fund per Magnuson-Stevens, so it can't (legally) be used to pad politician's pockets, but who knows what'll happen once it's in there... 
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02-09-2011, 04:42 PM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
Posts: 3,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
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Exactly
Quote:
Originally Posted by JackK
I hope you're not right... I know it's mandated that it goes into a dedicated fund per Magnuson-Stevens, so it can't (legally) be used to pad politician's pockets, but who knows what'll happen once it's in there... 
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How long have you lived in MA.?
Here's an example look at the fresh water license that went up over the years,and for the past 10 years you are forced into buying a water foul license.WTF is that for I don't own a gun which equals no hunting(in this case) so necessitating that license would be pointless
Or look at the MA. Pike that bill has been on the chopping block for years,it was paid off 7 years ago and the tolls should of been dropped,but it has repeatedly been denied each time it goes up for termination.
Point beaning if the money collected went to where it should have the toll should be eliminated,but as always in this liberal and corrupt State,we the Tax Payers get the Royal shaft  just sand no lube to easy the entry 
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Live bait sharp hooks and timing is all you need
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02-09-2011, 08:18 PM
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Not Jack
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Other Cape
Posts: 1,239
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5/0
How long have you lived in MA.?
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About a year 
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02-09-2011, 09:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Shore
Posts: 1,701
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5/0
Exactly
How long have you lived in MA.?
Here's an example look at the fresh water license that went up over the years,and for the past 10 years you are forced into buying a water foul license.WTF is that for I don't own a gun which equals no hunting(in this case) so necessitating that license would be pointless
Or look at the MA. Pike that bill has been on the chopping block for years,it was paid off 7 years ago and the tolls should of been dropped,but it has repeatedly been denied each time it goes up for termination.
Point beaning if the money collected went to where it should have the toll should be eliminated,but as always in this liberal and corrupt State,we the Tax Payers get the Royal shaft  just sand no lube to easy the entry 
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Also - MA is so hurting for money ... they will suck it from wherever they can grab it ... and then they will waste it ...
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"It was the blackest night! There was no moon in sight! (You know the stars ain't shinnin cause the sky's too tight) "
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02-09-2011, 09:42 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5/0
Or look at the MA. Pike that bill has been on the chopping block for years,it was paid off 7 years ago and the tolls should of been dropped,but it has repeatedly been denied each time it goes up for termination.
Point beaning if the money collected went to where it should have the toll should be eliminated,but as always in this liberal and corrupt State,we the Tax Payers get the Royal shaft  just sand no lube to easy the entry 
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Still gotta pay off the largest, most expensive highway restructuring in the world.
Could have gotten rid of those tolls 7 years ago if the state didn't allow 300% in overages for the Big Dig.
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