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02-08-2011, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Again, I see you dodged my other, pertinent question, which was this...given that you concede that public employees "could" live with 401(k)s, don't you think they SHOULD be asked to live with 401(k)s?
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Then go ahead and ask them....I'm not stopping you.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-08-2011, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Then go ahead and ask them....I'm not stopping you.
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Nice dodge, coward. I asked you if you thought they should make the switch to 401(k)s. I'm sorry if that question points out how obviously flawed your personal agenda is. If your position on this issue is so weak that you cannot begin to answer a question that simple, perhaps you should ask yourself why you believe what you do?
You can keep pointing out all of the hypertechnical flaws in my posts. The logic is unassailable. Your refusal to answer my question makes that crystal clear.
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02-08-2011, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Nice dodge, coward. I asked you if you thought they should make the switch to 401(k)s.
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and besides.....thats not what you asked.
This is what you asked
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Again, I see you dodged my other, pertinent question, which was this...given that you concede that public employees "could" live with 401(k)s, don't you think they SHOULD be asked to live with 401(k)s?
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and I said Go ahead and ask them.....seems like I answered the question you asked.
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02-08-2011, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
and besides.....thats not what you asked.
This is what you asked
and I said Go ahead and ask them.....seems like I answered the question you asked.
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Again, focusing on the details, instead of the main issue.
Dad, I didn't ask you if I had your permission to ask them. I asked if they "SHOULD" be asked...meaning, do you think switching from pensions to 401(k)s is the right thuing to do?
Dad, do you know the difference between "can" and "should"? If my question was "CAN I ask them", then your response (that no one is stopping me) would have been pertinent. But, as you see, what I posted was "SHOULD we ask them". The word "should", to most people, gets at whether or not something is the right thing to do, not whether or not you have permission to do something.
Is that clear enough?
Last edited by Jim in CT; 02-08-2011 at 02:17 PM..
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02-08-2011, 02:15 PM
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I thought that 401's should have been introduced several years ago. The energy spent here should be directed to your local city council or town selectmen. Not one thing would be solved here. The rant goes on. 
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02-08-2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
I thought that 401's should have been introduced several years ago. The energy spent here should be directed to your local city council or town selectmen. Not one thing would be solved here. The rant goes on. 
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Fly Rod, I don't expect issues to be solved here. What I hoped for, was good, rigorous, open debate. But when I ask a pointed question, one gyu accuses me of being jealous of public employees, one guy tells me to stop hating public employees, one guy tells me that people are only "safe" if cops get these benefits...
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