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Old 02-11-2011, 02:15 PM   #1
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Mubarak didn't step down because of violence, it was because the people showed their strength through non-violent means. This is precisely why this event is so dramatic.

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I didn't say that he did, but you should google egypt protests and click images and then come back and tell me that it was ...

"a completely peaceful coup....and....non-violent means"
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:17 PM   #2
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I didn't say that he did, but you should google egypt protests and click images and then come back and tell me that it was ...

"a completely peaceful coup....and....non-violent means"
I think you're just a little frustrated BO will take credit for this

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Old 02-11-2011, 02:24 PM   #3
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according to BO, Panetta and Clapper, the only thing they know is what they learn from watching the news, so...while I'm sure you will cheerfully heap credit on him till it turns bad...not really sure what he had to do with anything....
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according to BO, Panetta and Clapper, the only thing they know is what they learn from watching the news, so...while I'm sure you will cheerfully heap credit on him till it turns bad...not really sure what he had to do with anything....
I'm sure they love Drudge reporting (and Salty broadcasting) that the Admin is out to lunch.

Then the Islamists can't accuse the US of meddling in Muslim affairs

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I think you're just a little frustrated BO will take credit for this

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Hmmm, I thought the blood soaked peaceful protesters deserve the credit!! But you are dead on, He will take credit for it.
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Hmmm, I thought the blood soaked peaceful protesters deserve the credit!! But you are dead on, He will take credit for it.
It happened on his watch, if it turns into a disaster he'll get all the blame.

Looks like Google might get all the credit, along with the protesters.

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It happened on his watch, if it turns into a disaster he'll get all the blame.


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Little early, 8 hrs, to proclaim credit or blame.

Good idea to wait a year or two before making any judgements,
this is far from over.

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Little early, 8 hrs, to proclaim credit or blame.

Good idea to wait a year or two before making any judgements,
this is far from over.
Agree, as I said earlier...headed in the right direction.

Long row to hoe, but the pieces look to be there for something good.

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Agree, as I said earlier...headed in the right direction.

Long row to hoe, but the pieces look to be there for something good.

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the only organized opposition currently is the Muslim Brotherhood....
is that one of the pieces that you are referring to?


Bakhtiar dissolved SAVAK, freed political prisoners, ordered the army to allow mass demonstrations, promised free elections and [B]invited Khomeinists and other revolutionaries into a government of "national unity".[/B](sound familiar?)

again..NY Times two days ago,,
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“In the process many have formed some unusual bonds that reflect the singularly nonideological character of the Egyptian youth revolt, which encompasses liberals, socialists and members of the Muslim Brotherhood.


Other opposition groups[50] included constitutionalist liberals — the democratic, reformist Islamic Freedom Movement of Iran, headed by Mehdi Bazargan, and the more secular National Front. They were based in the urban middle class, and wanted the Shah to adhere to the Iranian Constitution of 1906 rather than to replace him with a theocracy,[51] but lacked the cohesion and organization of Khomeini's forces.[52] [COLOR="blue"]([B]who, like the MB were organized and ready to assume control when they took their place in the "unity government[/B]")[/COLOR]( I'm guessing the MB will be well funded and doing a lot of high profile charity work until the elections)

not predicting which way it will go and I'm certainly praying for a US friendly democracy or at least the beginnings perhaps modeled and inspired by Iraq rather than a hostile Islamist state but history seems to be repeating itself....trends in the area as a whole are not encouraging

don't know how many actual protesters there were but there are 7 million people in Cairo and just over 80 million in Egypt hoeing rows

maybe Obama is secretly behind the scenes directing the Egyptian Military and the events(at least that's what the BO loyalist would love to imply) and has everything under control...and he and his people seeming clueless and on completely different pages is just a smoke screen...yeah, that's a good one...I smell another nobel peace prize

http://www.yalibnan.com/2011/02/09/m...-waiting-game/
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In Uncertain Egypt, a Few Certainties

February 11, 2011 3:59 P.M. By Amir Taheri

However, it is clear to me that change in Tunisia was ultimately imposed by the army. In Egypt, on the other hand, the army tried to prop up Mubarak until the last minute. It was the popular uprising that forced Mubarak out. This means that we have just witnessed a genuinely historic moment: the first time an Arab despot has been forced out by a mass movement.

The second certainty is that the Obama administration discredited itself by praising Mubarak to the skies before trying to dictate his departure. That sorry exercise revealed the weakness of the United States while casting it as a fickle friend that might stab you in the back.

The third certainty is that radical anti-democratic forces are already preparing to ambush the new Egypt. The first move in that direction came from Syria last night when its official television station announced “the end of the Camp David peace” with Israel and urged the adoption of a new strategy to “face the Zionist foe.” Iran, though shaken by an Egyptian uprising that echoed its own pro-democracy movement in 2009, is developing a similar theme.
we should send Nancy Pelosi to Syria again to get that little situation squared away

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It happened on his watch, if it turns into a disaster he'll get all the blame.

Looks like Google might get all the credit, along with the protesters.

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It is interesting how Google and Twitter are covering themselves in glory over this. They were not so quick to claim credit after the disturbances in Iran last year where the government was able to find and arrest dissidents by tracing their social networking accounts
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It is interesting how Google and Twitter are covering themselves in glory over this. They were not so quick to claim credit after the disturbances in Iran last year where the government was able to find and arrest dissidents by tracing their social networking accounts
Ain't marketing great

Here it's interesting as a Google exec was actually there helping to lead the protests.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/tech...lution-20.html


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