year 2010 recreational catch statistics

[BasicPatrick]

We (recreational advocates) claim the recreational numbers are bogus and that is the heart and soul of what drove the registry/license move along the coast. The new system is not yet in place and I for one agree with Kenny that there are way more fish caught by our community than the numbers show.

IF this is true then the numbers are skewed and there are more fish than we think as well...I state this because the number of reported fish is a part of how the overall amount is calculated.

On a related note and a far more accurate (in many more educated than myself's) opinion, the young of the year index has been on a significant decline. There has been a prpediction for at least five years that there would be a lot less maller fish and that is absolutely true.

The same scientific modeling state there are more large available and all we all know the last few years have seen an almost unbelievable amount of supercows.

We also now KNOW that Mycobacteriosis is spreading and that a lack of quality forage is part of that problem...according to scientists not me or other fishermen.

We also know that as the numbers of fish skyrocketed the recreational catch went through the ceiling and the commercial catch got one small bump and it was small.

Now that the recreational catch is falling responsible management is not to just blame the commercial quota, or poaching or anything else that isn't staring us right in the mirror...it is to cut mortality.

We need to DEMAND that our State Directors reduce mortality NOW. We need to stop blaming anyone and reduce killing as many Stripers and then protect the chit out of our forage base.

LEt's get it right. We are still above stock targets on Striped Bass. There are problems but there are always problems.

Look at that chart again. In he years the catches were highest the bulk of those fish were small. Go back and check posts about the West wall, The Narrows in Buttermilk Bay, the bulk of the fly fishing boom. It was all fueled by little fish and high liners were complaining there were not enough large. Now there are a bunch of large but the small are hard to find.

You can only support so much life in a finite space. Especially when forage is in bad shape and water is warning and...and...and.

Stop Whining and call your State Director...Are you committed enough to force by way of numbers a change or are we going to blog and whine and never make the calls needed to stop the bleeding now.

Call your state Director.


There will be analysis that will help clarify what must be done to

[robc22]

Originally Posted by BasicPatrick

We (recreational advocates) claim the recreational numbers are bogus and that is the heart and soul of what drove the registry/license move along the coast. The new system is not yet in place and I for one agree with Kenny that there are way more fish caught by our community than the numbers show.

IF this is true then the numbers are skewed and there are more fish than we think as well...I state this because the number of reported fish is a part of how the overall amount is calculated.

On a related note and a far more accurate (in many more educated than myself's) opinion, the young of the year index has been on a significant decline. There has been a prpediction for at least five years that there would be a lot less maller fish and that is absolutely true.

The same scientific modeling state there are more large available and all we all know the last few years have seen an almost unbelievable amount of supercows.

We also now KNOW that Mycobacteriosis is spreading and that a lack of quality forage is part of that problem...according to scientists not me or other fishermen.

We also know that as the numbers of fish skyrocketed the recreational catch went through the ceiling and the commercial catch got one small bump and it was small.

Now that the recreational catch is falling responsible management is not to just blame the commercial quota, or poaching or anything else that isn't staring us right in the mirror...it is to cut mortality.

We need to DEMAND that our State Directors reduce mortality NOW. We need to stop blaming anyone and reduce killing as many Stripers and then protect the chit out of our forage base.

LEt's get it right. We are still above stock targets on Striped Bass. There are problems but there are always problems.

Look at that chart again. In he years the catches were highest the bulk of those fish were small. Go back and check posts about the West wall, The Narrows in Buttermilk Bay, the bulk of the fly fishing boom. It was all fueled by little fish and high liners were complaining there were not enough large. Now there are a bunch of large but the small are hard to find.

You can only support so much life in a finite space. Especially when forage is in bad shape and water is warning and...and...and.

Stop Whining and call your State Director...Are you committed enough to force by way of numbers a change or are we going to blog and whine and never make the calls needed to stop the bleeding now.

Call your state Director.


There will be analysis that will help clarify what must be done to

[buckman]

I think the problem is not the number of fish but where the food has been located. There has been a growing population of Bass offshore. Lots of food out there. There are so many bass on the tuna grounds it's amazing and yet the usual places we hit in early June have sucked the last few years.

[MAKAI]

It's not what's out there now.

It's what's going to replace what's out there now.

To use a baseball analogy " The farm system is badly depleted "

It now takes 3 times the breeders to get the same YOY as it did 20 years ago

Be nice if our kids could catch bass like we do now.


Make the calls

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by buckman

I think the problem is not the number of fish but where the food has been located. There has been a growing population of Bass offshore. Lots of food out there. There are so many bass on the tuna grounds it's amazing and yet the usual places we hit in early June have sucked the last few years.

This is true all the way down the coast to nc where those fish are out to 13 miles... Just think, even all those fish th NC Trawlers are decimating this year there has been absolutely no Surf Run. Those guys in the outerbanks havent had a surf run since the early 2000's. I remember running down there and the Bass and blues chasing pogies on the beach... Remember chunking hatteras point... Its a thing of the past, almost been a decade. The only reason we have had a surf run off NJ the last few years is there have been schools of pogies on the beach in certain conditions. You take that away like you have up the coast and thats over too. I spend all my time in the spring run 2-2.99 miles out.. If it was legal Id be out further with the fish.