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Old 02-26-2011, 10:10 AM   #1
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Ya JD, what this country needs is a good depression.
You and I excluded of course.
There needs to be a change in course of how things are handled with the Unions. By terminating everyone, they can cut the dead weight who have been riding the luxurious train of seniority while doing the minimum required of them.

This will not only help Providence with their budget issues but also provides an opportunity to improve the quality of education.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:27 PM   #2
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JD, from1985-2010 federal education spending more than doubled(138%) while
achievement and graduation numbers remained flat.
Blaming teachers and throwing $$$ at education and
hoping for improvement is a waste of time.

You have taught, and have to know it's the lack of interest in the
home, kids taking drugs and disrespect by the students that are
causing the real problems.

I sub taught in 5 different schools and can honestly say there were
maybe 2 or 3 teachers in the public schools that were just doing the minimum.
I saw all good teachers in the private schools as the parents were
paying $$$ and took an interest in their kids, and the the discipline
was such that a kid would be expelled or thrown out for any kind
of disrespect or trouble.
It was a motivating place to teach.

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Old 02-26-2011, 02:03 PM   #3
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Yes, nice mess that Mr Cicciline left Mr Tavares.

Thankfully, RI did not send Mr Cicilline to Washington, D.C. where he could bring his superior skill, intellect, and elan to the national level.

At least the PVD teacher's union has a track record of working with Dept Ed, Fed, and PVD in proactive ways unusual for an RI teacher's union.

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Old 02-26-2011, 02:11 PM   #4
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This is happenening in all areas these days. You bust ass for years and all that you've acrued is taken away. Vacations, personal days, HEALTH INSURANCE CONTRIBUTIONS, pay raises even though the product is sold for more, name it. If the working stiff doesn't wake the hell up he'll find himself building a pyramid. Bring back the Wobblys.
Education is a public fail because the kids arrive unfit to be educated, the problem lies in apathetic homes with apathetic parents. This firing is just a form of PSY-OP used against every working person in this country and some idiots actually embrace it. As George Carlin said they think that they're part of the club, the in crowd, but they're NOT.
Firing people wholesale and making them beg for their job back for less is just frigging wrong no matter how you cut it. WRONG.

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JD, from1985-2010 federal education spending more than doubled(138%) while
achievement and graduation numbers remained flat.
Blaming teachers and throwing $$$ at education and
hoping for improvement is a waste of time.

You have taught, and have to know it's the lack of interest in the
home, kids taking drugs and disrespect by the students that are
causing the real problems.

I sub taught in 5 different schools and can honestly say there were
maybe 2 or 3 teachers in the public schools that were just doing the minimum.
I saw all good teachers in the private schools as the parents were
paying $$$ and took an interest in their kids, and the the discipline
was such that a kid would be expelled or thrown out for any kind
of disrespect or trouble.
It was a motivating place to teach.
This is the best explanation I have heard all year in regards to students who do poorly.

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There needs to be a change in course of how things are handled with the Unions. By terminating everyone, they can cut the dead weight who have been riding the luxurious train of seniority while doing the minimum required of them.

This will not only help Providence with their budget issues but also provides an opportunity to improve the quality of education.
When they fired/layed off al the teachers I think its safe to say everything within this school district cease to function. Like it or not the district and its teachers are functioning at a level that wont change regardless the outcomerip of this mass firing. It is a power trip and thats all. Guy who did the firing says he is god. God is about to be introduced to a whole parcel of attorneys, who in the end, will dictate the outcome.

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