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Old 03-21-2011, 06:43 PM   #1
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Ummm, this is a diplomatic trip you know. Considering how much time and money even my company is spending in South America, you'd think perhaps there's a good reason to be south of the equator. Every Billion we export translates into 5000 US jobs.

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Old 03-21-2011, 07:14 PM   #2
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Ummm, this is a diplomatic trip you know. .

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he..and you...should just stick to refering to them as vacations, his "diplomatic missions" are usually disasterous, he doesn't need anymore of those on his record as he's trying to get reelected...
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:17 PM   #3
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Always best to be outa town when Congress may have questions.

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Old 03-21-2011, 07:20 PM   #4
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- OK, so it wasn't health care, climate change or war. Still, President Barack Obama's high-profile failure to win the Olympics for Chicago could feed negative narratives already nipping at his heels -- that he's a better talker than closer, more celebrity than statesman.

And this could hamper his efforts on the weightier issues.

Despite Obama's fabled charm and powers of persuasion, his in-person plea for Chicago to host the 2016 Summer Games fell flat. It was a hugely embarrassing defeat. His adopted hometown -- considered a front-runner heading into Friday's voting -- didn't just lose, it took last place, shocking nearly all by getting knocked out in the first round while the remaining three contenders moved on.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:26 PM   #5
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Always best to be outa town when Congress may have questions.
just got done reading a recount of a lengthy speech Biden gave regarding presidential powers as well as an interview with Obama on much the same subject, apparently things have really changed since those two were throwing bombs of criticism rather than having to actually make the decisions


“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,” Obama responded.

“As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States,” Obama continued. “In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch.” O'Bomber

his announcement contained lot's of.... I.....I....I'm...I....I.I.I.I.I's....didn't see any mention of congress


but it's not at all like O'Bomber to lecture others and then exclude himself from his own pronouncements at a later date...is it?


Biden-Citing Federalist No. 69, Biden noted that Alexander Hamilton, who among the Framers was perhaps the greatest champion of a strong executive, argued that the Constitution gave the president the authority to direct the military in action only after that action was authorized by Congress.

“Even Alexander Hamilton, a staunch advocate of Presidential power, emphasized that the President’s power as Commander in Chief would be ‘much inferior’ to the British King, amounting to ‘nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces,’ while that of the British King ‘extends to declaring of war and to the raising and regulating of fleets and armies–all which, by [the U.S.] Constitution, would appertain to the legislature,’” said Biden.

“Given this,” Biden concluded, “the only logical conclusion is that the framers intended to grant to Congress the power to initiate all hostilities, even limited wars.”

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I can always count on Spence to put a positive spin on anything this jackwad does.

SHOW ME ONE JOB HE CREATED AS A RESULT OF THIS TRIP.




Excluding Manuel the guy who put the red carpet down when he landed......

Don't wave the jobs flag cuz the guy ain't done S H I T to create jobs except to throw money at USELESS things for the last two years hoping that some of that S H A T would stick to the wall and not roll off.


It's not SNOWBAMA that creates exports....It's companies that vie for and sell to these outside companies on their own.


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Ummm, this is a diplomatic trip you know. Considering how much time and money even my company is spending in South America, you'd think perhaps there's a good reason to be south of the equator. Every Billion we export translates into 5000 US jobs.


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Old 03-22-2011, 05:31 AM   #7
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SHOW ME ONE JOB HE CREATED AS A RESULT OF THIS TRIP.

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I'm sure there are people cooking his food, waiting on them, picking the Queen's clothes, scheduling parties, taking pictures etc. etc......
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im sure Raytheon is hiring to make more tomahawks..
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you forgot the crew that washes the ground they walk on
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I STAND CORRECTED

Maybe I should have said US JOB

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I'm sure there are people cooking his food, waiting on them, picking the Queen's clothes, scheduling parties, taking pictures etc. etc......
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Old 03-22-2011, 08:42 AM   #11
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I can always count on Spence to put a positive spin on anything this jackwad does.

SHOW ME ONE JOB HE CREATED AS A RESULT OF THIS TRIP.




Excluding Manuel the guy who put the red carpet down when he landed......

Don't wave the jobs flag cuz the guy ain't done S H I T to create jobs except to throw money at USELESS things for the last two years hoping that some of that S H A T would stick to the wall and not roll off.


It's not SNOWBAMA that creates exports....It's companies that vie for and sell to these outside companies on their own.
Business exports are governed by trade agreements and relations between countries. It's pretty common for US Presidents to be seen abroad working to ensure alignment with American business interests.

As for "show me one job" that doesn't make a lot of sense.

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